Michael Reichmann on the Safari M8.2

[cam2000]

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I agree with the last comments of today..... it is a question of personal choice.... no one is forcing your hands to buy one! I wish the body alone was offered to be sold .... even the G1 comes in 3 flavors (red-blue-and black) and no one is complaining.

[jaapv]

I think the M8.2 Safari is beautiful and if I needed another body and lens right now, I'd seriously consider buying and using it. I fail to see why a black or chrome M8.2 is just another piece of photo equipment, but a green one is an extravagance.

 

Agree 100%. This thought has crossed my mind too. Unfortunately 2 bodies is enough.

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[lars_bergquist]

Green is a practical finish that does not detract from the usefulness of the camera. The too-stiff leather strap is a different matter. Billingham bags are superb.

 

The problem is with two kinds of people:

 

---Collectors who allow good cameras to die slowly and horribly within their shrink-wrapped cases

 

---People without taste. The only appropriate comment is the reply that General Patton gave an innocent journalist who asked if it was true that he wore a pair of revolvers with pearl handles:

 

"Only a pimp from New Orleans would carry a pearl-handled revolver."

 

The old man from the Age of Ernst Leitz II

[sfokevin]

Green is a practical finish that does not detract from the usefulness of the camera. The too-stiff leather strap is a different matter. Billingham bags are superb.

 

The problem is with two kinds of people:

 

---Collectors who allow good cameras to die slowly and horribly within their shrink-wrapped cases

 

---People without taste. The only appropriate comment is the reply that General Patton gave an innocent journalist who asked if it was true that he wore a pair of revolvers with pearl handles:

 

"Only a pimp from New Orleans would carry a pearl-handled revolver."

 

The old man from the Age of Ernst Leitz II

 

And I'm sure Patton had a first hand view of those revolvers...

[jaapv]

 

---People without taste.

 

The old man from the Age of Ernst Leitz II

 

And the problem there is differentiating between "without" and "different from mine"

[lct]

Same old discussions about special editions here. Last time was about the Noctilux in Elie Bleu Tabletier box if i remember well. Good work for artisans and artists, good money for Leica as well. So where's the problem, a bit of envy perhaps? Beware it's still a deadly sin folks.

[sfokevin]

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Same old discussions about special editions here. Last time was about the Noctilux in Elie Bleu Tabletier box if i remember well. Good work for artisans and artists, good money for Leica as well. So where's the problem, a bit of envy perhaps? Beware it's still a deadly sin folks.

 

Mc Kitty has been banned from the West Leica room since the key tassel went missing...

 

[lars_bergquist]

And I'm sure Patton had a first hand view of those revolvers...

George Patton owned two revolvers, but they were different types and were never used as a pair. One was a Colt Model P he used as a tanker in WWI, the other a Smith & Wesson. And yes both had custom handles, but no, not pearl but ivory---with initials.

 

Now the problem with pearl-handled revolvers is the same as with gilt cameras---they're dysfunctional. The mother-of pearl gets slippery, and the gilt does not resist even slight wear. So both items are useless for their design purpose, and useful only for showing off. In other words, bling-bling. And maybe I'm stuffy and preppy and as oldfashioned as the King's (not Queen's) English I was taught to try to speak, but my opinion of blingbling is pretty low. A camera is a tool for taking pictures. In its old age, it may be of interest to someone who is interested in the development of camera technology, in which case it should be kept in working order if possible.

 

The old man from the Age of World War II

[wattsy]

And the problem there is differentiating between "without" and "different from mine"

 

Yes, but I firmly believe good and bad taste can be identified objectively. In my (tasteful) opinion, the safari M8.2 is pretty naff and, frankly, rather ugly.

[gwelland]

Yes, but I firmly believe good and bad taste can be identified objectively.

 

Really? If so, and you can prove it then I'll wager that you'll become VERY rich and infinitely popular with the ability to exercise this particular talent.

 

In my (tasteful) opinion, the safari M8.2 is pretty naff and, frankly, rather ugly.

 

Au contraire, I think it looks rather elegant. That said, it would look a whole lot better if the bag looked like it was an old poacher's bag with the straps all nicely worn and turned up. Also the camera needs a good case of rubbing off the paint around the edges so that it looks like it just got back from a war zone. But that's just my own personal tasteful observation.

[dkCambridgeshire]

Yes, but I firmly believe good and bad taste can be identified objectively. In my (tasteful) opinion, the safari M8.2 is pretty naff and, frankly, rather ugly.

 

 

 

It is rather attractive IMO ...

 

And it matches this rather well too ...

 

 

And I appreciate Dr Andreas Kaufman's gesture of personally signing each Authenticity Certificate.

 

 

 

Cheers

 

dunk

Edited March 11, 2009 by dkpeterborough

[lct]

...It is rather attractive IMO...

This red nose makes me think of something.

 

[dkCambridgeshire]

This red nose makes me think of something.

 

 

Maybe this chap? Maybe he used a Leica?

 

http://video.google.com/videosearch?client=safari&rls=en&q=w+c+fields&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv&ei=fOa3SeDhGJDRjAfM_syoCQ&oi=property_suggestions&resnum=0&ct=property-revision&cd=1#

 

Have fun

 

Cheers

 

dunk

[dkCambridgeshire]

Really? If so, and you can prove it then I'll wager that you'll become VERY rich and infinitely popular with the ability to exercise this particular talent.

 

 

 

Au contraire, I think it looks rather elegant. That said, it would look a whole lot better if the bag looked like it was an old poacher's bag with the straps all nicely worn and turned up. Also the camera needs a good case of rubbing off the paint around the edges so that it looks like it just got back from a war zone. But that's just my own personal tasteful observation.

 

Agreed as far as the bag is concerned ... so in the best Blue Peter tradition here is one I prepared earlier ...

 

 

 

... in 1979 to be precise ... when they could only be purchased directly from the Billingham factory when it cost £28.75 inclusive of delivery and VAT ... and when the leather and brass were slightly better quality than used today ...

 

 

Cheers

 

dunk

Edited March 11, 2009 by dkpeterborough

[gwelland]

Now we're talking! I'm a bit concerned that you're still holding on to, and can find on demand, the receipt for the bag from the 70's though.

[dkCambridgeshire]

Now we're talking! I'm a bit concerned that you're still holding on to, and can find on demand, the receipt for the bag from the 70's though.

 

Seems a sensible thing to do ie keep a lever arch file of receipts for most of the camera/photographic purchases over the years ... but there are lots of items long gone/sold which are not in the file. The Billingham receipt has been a subject of interest on another forum.

 

Cheers

 

dunk

[ErikFive]

From Luminous Landscape.

 

Made me smile anyway.

 

Bahahahahahaha

 

 

But Im fine with it if it rock someone´s boat. Not my money, not my concern

[fotografr]

Now we're talking! I'm a bit concerned that you're still holding on to, and can find on demand, the receipt for the bag from the 70's though.

 

Indeed! I can't even remember the last time I saw anything carboned from an actual typewriter. That's going to have antique value very soon. It just occured to me there is a whole generation out there that has likely never even seen a typewriter, except perhaps in old movies.

[dkCambridgeshire]

Perhaps we should start a new thread for vintage camera related receipts? Will check to see what else I have tucked away.

 

Cheers

 

dunk

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[gwelland]

Indeed! I can't even remember the last time I saw anything carboned from an actual typewriter. That's going to have antique value very soon. It just occured to me there is a whole generation out there that has likely never even seen a typewriter, except perhaps in old movies.

 

In general you're right that there's an entire generation brought up on CD's, PlayStations and digital cameras who have no clue about LP's, Atari video games, and film cameras. However, I was pleasantly surprised by a radio article I heard on NPR regarding manual typewriters and their growing appeal. It seems that there's a new generation of home writers who appreciate the aesthetic of using both electric and manual typewriters - some folks love their typewriters and give them names etc. Ditto for the more expected collectors who appreciate them for their vintage art. The few specialist stores seem to have some regular business. This all seems vaguely familiar when I look across at my M7 film camera that I'll sometimes use just for the heck of it ...

 

As regards the receipt - I have to admire the organization, particularly for such an item as a camera bag. Having the receipts readily available for cameras & lenses I might expect.