bobkatz Posted December 16, 2008 Share #1 Posted December 16, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi friends...JUst got a leica M3, with a wax seal with 69 number engraved. I know some repairers have an id number, but did google and I cant find what this number means. Any advice here? Best regards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 16, 2008 Posted December 16, 2008 Hi bobkatz, Take a look here wax seal:69. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jc_braconi Posted December 16, 2008 Share #2 Posted December 16, 2008 In french slang : cleaning the tools. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobkatz Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share #3 Posted December 16, 2008 Thx....this means this camera had been CLAed for some one in France?...cause I bought it from Australia.. Bob. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
someonenameddavid Posted December 17, 2008 Share #4 Posted December 17, 2008 Mais non, monsieur. The previous poster was making a lewd comment. I wish him all the fun of a Toyota MR2 David Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobkatz Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share #5 Posted December 17, 2008 Thx David... 69 means that same here. Saludos y gracias por la aclaracion. Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubice Posted December 17, 2008 Share #6 Posted December 17, 2008 Actually, Bob is correct - the '69' stamping does indeed belong to a Leica service somwhere in the world. I do distinctly remember that '69' was among the assigned codes and my feeble brain seems to recall it belonged to some US or Canadian repair station. I could be wrong though...... Once upon a time, I found a listing of assigned stampings but for the life of me can't remember where. The stylized 'L' of course stood for Leitz in Wetzlar, 'C' was from the Canadian Leica agents during the 1960's and 70's - Walter A. Carveth. Best, Jan Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobkatz Posted January 1, 2009 Author Share #7 Posted January 1, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) thx Jan... best.. Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benflanders Posted June 10, 2021 Share #8 Posted June 10, 2021 This thread was a long time ago, but for anyone's info '69' is Jorg Heumuller's number - Wetzlar trained technician in Melbourne, Australia. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted June 10, 2021 Share #9 Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, benflanders said: This thread was a long time ago, but for anyone's info '69' is Jorg Heumuller's number - Wetzlar trained technician in Melbourne, Australia. Herr Soixante Neuf Ben, does Jorg work for anyone? I'm in Brisbane but have been sending my Leicas & even a Nikon Coolscan (which they successfully repaired) to the Camera Clinic in Melbourne Edited June 10, 2021 by romualdo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnW. Posted June 10, 2021 Share #10 Posted June 10, 2021 Not Ben, but this is Jorg's web address http://europeancameraservice.com/about/ He made a great job of my rather tired M3 a couple of years ago. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted June 10, 2021 Share #11 Posted June 10, 2021 Hello Everybody, Erwin Puts, In his "Leica lists" P. 14 writes that "69" is "Pyrox, Melbourne". My note to myself regarding this (Undated by me.) writes that he writes that he copied this information directly from the factory records in Solms in February 2010. Best Regards, Michael Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrogallol Posted June 10, 2021 Share #12 Posted June 10, 2021 I recently learned that the factory “L” seal was a raised L for the original seal and an impressed L for serviced, cut into the surface rather than raised above it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted June 10, 2021 Share #13 Posted June 10, 2021 Here some seals and origins : 56: Serviced by Paepke Fototechnik 92: Serviced by DAG as well all know it. 24: ? 69: ? A: Serviced by Alois Kosnar from Stockholm C: Manufactured by Leitz Midland, Canada, rare sight H: Serviced by Havel Camera, Texas, USA J: Serviced by Mr Gerry Smith from Toronto K: Serviced by Kanto Camera Service, Japan (Kanto Camera Service) L: Raised letter, manufactured by Leitz up to M4-2 and did not include CL L: Recessed letter, serviced by Leitz up to 1982 (?) N: Serviced by Leitz New York O: Unsure origin, mentioned on photo.net to be a service person from Adeleide, Australia. S: Hand-engraved letter, serviced by Sherry Krauter and those (translated in French) taken from "25 Jahre Leica Historica" : A: Venzlaff, AthŠne/GrŠce B: Leitz, Londres/Grande Bretagne C: Leitz, Milan/Italie D: Tiranty, Paris/France E: Brandt, Stockholm/SuŠde F: Lutz Ferrando, Buenos Aires/Argentine G: Cattaneo, Gˆnes/Italie H: Schmitt, Hongkong I: Taeuber, Le Cap/Afrique Sud K: Kleiner, Rio de Janeiro/Br‚sil M: Pablo Ferrando, Montevideo/Uruguay N: Lackland, Aukland/Nlle. Z‚lande O: Odin, Nijmwegen/Pays-Bas P: Perrot, Biel/Suisse Q: Parer, Sydney/Australie R: Sanitas, Bogota/Colombie S: Schmidt, Tokyo/Japon T: Carveht, Toronto/Canada U: Commercial Ultramar, Mexico/Mexique V: Forestier, Valparaiso/Chili W: Optoteknika, Vienne/Autriche X: Fixit, Bagdad/Irak Y: Leitz, New York/USA Z: Reiss & Co., Jakarta/Malaisie 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted June 10, 2021 Share #14 Posted June 10, 2021 Hello Jean Claude, From the same source that I listed above: "24" is "Camera Service Center, Hollywood". Best Regards, Michael 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benflanders Posted June 11, 2021 Share #15 Posted June 11, 2021 18 hours ago, romualdo said: Herr Soixante Neuf Ben, does Jorg work for anyone? I'm in Brisbane but have been sending my Leicas & even a Nikon Coolscan (which they successfully repaired) to the Camera Clinic in Melbourne Jorg works for himself in Heidelberg, Melb. He completely overhauled my M4 that I bought from the Camera Exchange. I bought it knowing that it wasn't running as well as it should. The Camera Exchange of course said, "it's fine, there's nothing wrong with it", which was technically true, but their definition of 'fine' isn't the same as mine and I was happy to learn that Jorg is of the same persuasion! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted June 11, 2021 Share #16 Posted June 11, 2021 20 hours ago, JohnW. said: Not Ben, but this is Jorg's web address http://europeancameraservice.com/about/ He made a great job of my rather tired M3 a couple of years ago. Thanks. have just made contact with him Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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