j_lir Posted October 8, 2008 Share #21 Posted October 8, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) where is that VIII for sale? im into it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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carstenw Posted October 8, 2008 Share #22 Posted October 8, 2008 What are the going rates for a Visoflex III? For a Bellows II? For a 2nd gen. Telyt-V 280mm f/4.8? For all the little adapter rings??? In Europe... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted October 8, 2008 Share #23 Posted October 8, 2008 What are the going rates for a Visoflex III? For a Bellows II? For a 2nd gen. Telyt-V 280mm f/4.8? For all the little adapter rings??? In Europe... If you look at the homepage of Meister Camera (Berlin or Hamburg) you get an idea about the "top" prices. Especially the "little adapters" as well as the 65-Elmar seem totally overprized for me, though there seems to be quite a big demand. Meister Hamburg has not had a single Visoflex III on offer for several months now, for lots of people discover it a new. You may be lucky finding Visoflex gear or attachments at other - non Leica specialist - dealers or at ebay for significantly lower prices . In my experience ebay offers are asked for much more often than before, so the prices will surely rize. Better buy now than wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knorp Posted October 8, 2008 Share #24 Posted October 8, 2008 |visoflex3|bellows2|tubes|135te| For close-up¯o outdoors you need a bit of patience and luck. Especially windy conditions and working with small apertures to generate adequate DOF are a PITA. But otherwise I find the VISO-experience very rewarding. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted October 8, 2008 Share #25 Posted October 8, 2008 couple of questions : can the Bellows I ( the one I show in the pictures with the Visoflex I ) be used on a Visoflex III ? Im toying the idea of getting the Visoflex II and a Bellows I ! Also, are the prism interchangable ? For example that nice prism that comes with the Visoflex I will fit in a VIsoflex III ?? I THINK that the bellows I can be mounted onto a Visoflex III, provided that you mount between the two the OUBIO adapter - BM to the Visoflex - SM to the bellows : I haven't the bellows I, but suppose it works... the OUBIO was designed just to mount on Visoflex II and III the "components" (lenses, above all) designed for the Viso I. But, frankly I don't see the reason to do so, unless you find a bellows I really for cheap... the bellows II is really a fine item, and fits directly on Viso III. The finders of Viso I and Viso II/III are totally incompatible - completely different mounts (round/rectangular - and, incredibly... , Leitz didn't make any adapter...difficult given the ground glass) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted October 8, 2008 Share #26 Posted October 8, 2008 If you look at the homepage of Meister Camera (Berlin or Hamburg) you get an idea about the "top" prices. Especially the "little adapters" as well as the 65-Elmar seem totally overprized for me, though there seems to be quite a big demand. Meister Hamburg has not had a single Visoflex III on offer for several months now, for lots of people discover it a new. You may be lucky finding Visoflex gear or attachments at other - non Leica specialist - dealers or at ebay for significantly lower prices . In my experience ebay offers are asked for much more often than before, so the prices will surely rize. Better buy now than wait. Actually, I am looking to sell mine I just don't know what prices I should expect. My Visoflex III is in great shape, and has the prism viewfinder which fits the M8. The Bellows II is nearly perfect, and comes with a box. I have about a dozen different ring adapters (no focusing ones), and finally I have what I thought was the 2nd. generation Telyt-V 280mm f/4.8, also in near-perfect shape with box, but I see that there are three types, according to Meister Camera in Hamburg (he has no prices for anything I own), and I don't know which mine is. It is the one with the smoother focusing ring, not the early one with the bumps. Is that type 3? I just need to figure out good prices and then I will list them. I won't sell until I know what a good price is (and of course, it has to pay off for me; if the prices are silly-low, I will keep them). I might drop by my local store, Meister Camera Berlin, and ask them what good prices are like. They are very honest and helpful. Or I might just list them on the B&S forum as highest interesting bid, and wait. I am most likely moving to R lenses for macro, probably with a 5D until the R10 arrives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas_schertel Posted October 8, 2008 Share #27 Posted October 8, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Here are some pictures, made with M8, Visoflex III, Bellows 2 and the head of Elmarit 2,8/90: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I think, the Visoflex is a very useful supplement to the M 8 and it brings a lot of fun. yours sincerely Thomas Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I think, the Visoflex is a very useful supplement to the M 8 and it brings a lot of fun. yours sincerely Thomas ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/64832-visoflex-users-stand-up/?do=findComment&comment=679555'>More sharing options...
jpattison Posted October 8, 2008 Share #28 Posted October 8, 2008 What no-one has mentioned yet, is how excellent the photos on this thread are ! Superb close ups, especially No 24! John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleskin Posted October 8, 2008 Share #29 Posted October 8, 2008 I just bought a Visoflex 3 on Ebay with a prism for $140 US Dollars!!! The only thing wrong with it was that somebody scratched the Leitz logo off of it. I do not care since I USE equipment. Ugly is ok. Other than that, It was a clean Visoflex. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeitz Posted October 9, 2008 Share #30 Posted October 9, 2008 I THINK that the bellows I can be mounted onto a Visoflex III, provided that you mount between the two the OUBIO adapter - BM to the Visoflex - SM to the bellows : I haven't the bellows I, but suppose it works... the OUBIO was designed just to mount on Visoflex II and III the "components" (lenses, above all) designed for the Viso I. But, frankly I don't see the reason to do so, unless you find a bellows I really for cheap... the bellows II is really a fine item, and fits directly on Viso III. The finders of Viso I and Viso II/III are totally incompatible - completely different mounts (round/rectangular - and, incredibly... , Leitz didn't make any adapter...difficult given the ground glass) Bellows I most definitely does NOT fit Visoflex II/III. Bellows I bolts to the bottom of Visoflex I with a platform that extends under the reflex housing; it does not screw in, like a lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artichoke Posted October 9, 2008 Share #31 Posted October 9, 2008 I went to a camera fair and came across a Viso III with bellows the dealer threw in a 135 TeleElmar that was a bit long in the tooth cosmetically, but optically pristine I got this all for < what I might have paid for the lens alone and thank my great fortune regularly here are some from me a monarch butterfly taken with the 135 TE and a bellows Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! the 135 TE with the Viso/bellows has become my favorite studio lens for doing orchids (a hobby that renewed my interest in photography) a dendrobium hybrid using this combination in the studio with fill flash takes a bit of prestidigitation as the flash shoe is almost entirely blocked by the viewfinder ...this can be overcome by using the chimney finder or using a slide viewer magnifier on the Viso's ground glass (inexpensive, but clumsy solution) ...an adapter that has a very low profile can be gotten but is costly ...if you plan on using the flash with the Viso, it is the way to go the Viso without the bellows can be used with some fine & relatively inexpensive telephoto lenses designed for this combination here is one from a zoo outing taken with the Telyt 200 f4.5 which I found languishing in a local camera shop lastly the 560 Telyt f5.6 mates particularly well on the M8 with the Viso I got mine from KEH as a "Bargain" lens & the focus system is a bit beat up, but usable with practice ...it is a "trombone" design & the M8's crop circumvents this lens' problems at its edges here is one from my backyard and one from the docks another advantage of this combination is that the crop factor also allows for seeing a bit outside the viewfinder frame to help with anticipating action which I find useful using telephotos of this length larger versions of these can be found in my pbase galleries orchids M8 Photo Gallery by Artichoke Vinagrette at pbase.com bugs M8 Photo Gallery by Artichoke Vinagrette at pbase.com birds & animals M8 Photo Gallery by Artichoke Vinagrette at pbase.com along with many other examples shooting this combination can be a challenge, but the reward of outstanding color & detail are well worth the effort besides I find making this Rube Goldbergesque system work a great deal of fun Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! the 135 TE with the Viso/bellows has become my favorite studio lens for doing orchids (a hobby that renewed my interest in photography) a dendrobium hybrid using this combination in the studio with fill flash takes a bit of prestidigitation as the flash shoe is almost entirely blocked by the viewfinder ...this can be overcome by using the chimney finder or using a slide viewer magnifier on the Viso's ground glass (inexpensive, but clumsy solution) ...an adapter that has a very low profile can be gotten but is costly ...if you plan on using the flash with the Viso, it is the way to go the Viso without the bellows can be used with some fine & relatively inexpensive telephoto lenses designed for this combination here is one from a zoo outing taken with the Telyt 200 f4.5 which I found languishing in a local camera shop lastly the 560 Telyt f5.6 mates particularly well on the M8 with the Viso I got mine from KEH as a "Bargain" lens & the focus system is a bit beat up, but usable with practice ...it is a "trombone" design & the M8's crop circumvents this lens' problems at its edges here is one from my backyard and one from the docks another advantage of this combination is that the crop factor also allows for seeing a bit outside the viewfinder frame to help with anticipating action which I find useful using telephotos of this length larger versions of these can be found in my pbase galleries orchids M8 Photo Gallery by Artichoke Vinagrette at pbase.com bugs M8 Photo Gallery by Artichoke Vinagrette at pbase.com birds & animals M8 Photo Gallery by Artichoke Vinagrette at pbase.com along with many other examples shooting this combination can be a challenge, but the reward of outstanding color & detail are well worth the effort besides I find making this Rube Goldbergesque system work a great deal of fun ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/64832-visoflex-users-stand-up/?do=findComment&comment=679726'>More sharing options...
t024484 Posted October 9, 2008 Share #32 Posted October 9, 2008 What no-one has mentioned yet, is how excellent the photos on this thread are ! Superb close ups, especially No 24! John John, I fully agree. Also having a Viso III, I wonder how peoply are able almost to instruct an insect to land right before their lens, and to sit and wait until the picture is taken. In all those cases that I have tried, the Insect disapeared when I came closer than 3 meters. Hans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpattison Posted October 9, 2008 Share #33 Posted October 9, 2008 There are two Visoflex IIIs with 90 degree finders on sale at the moment at this eBay shop.(he also has two Viso IIs so be careful, they don't fit the M8, or M6TTL or M7.... MP? except with the chimney finder) and a Microscope visoflex! eBay.co.uk Shop - fotobrell: Leica M M-39: UV E55 55mm LEICA ORIGINAL FILTER 13373 LEITZ WIE NEU John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted October 9, 2008 Share #34 Posted October 9, 2008 FYI: I chatted with Meister Camera Berlin, and their take was that the prices at the moment are as follows: Visoflex III: about 150-200 Euro, Bellows II: < 100 Euro, and the latest 280mm f/4.8 Telyt-V: 320 Euro. At these prices, I think it makes no sense to sell, so I will just keep them. I will consider selling the Telyt, since I will replace it with other system lenses, but the rest I will just keep for a rainy day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted October 9, 2008 Share #35 Posted October 9, 2008 FYI: I chatted with Meister Camera Berlin, and their take was that the prices at the moment are as follows: Visoflex III: about 150-200 Euro, Bellows II: < 100 Euro, and the latest 280mm f/4.8 Telyt-V: 320 Euro. .... Carsten, It seems to me that the Viso III has appreciated recently. I bought mine about a year ago and looked around a lot to familiarise myself with the market and at that stage they were regularly fetching around £70 to £90 (85 to 110 Euro) complete with the right-angled finder. There were of course some with £100+ price tags but they weren't moving. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafael_macia Posted October 10, 2008 Share #36 Posted October 10, 2008 Prices here(USA) are a bit lower. A Viso III with 90 degree prism goes for $200 user-$350 if pristine. A 65 chrome Elmar is $250-400 A black one $400-$600 sometimes higher..Extension tubes $15-25 black higher. Careful inspection is a must. Mirror pitting and prism fog, are as common as finding one in mint condition. Most Viso's were put aside with the advent of the Leica SLR, and many were not stored well. Looking around a lot is the key to finding the perfect Viso III. I bought and sold three. (They are easy to sell on Leica sites), before I had a keeper. I sold them because, I wanted to find an almost new one. I just sent my Viso III to have a Brightscreen with M8 crop/indicator marks etched into the glass. I had, for awhile, toyed with the idea to add crop lines myself, but after speaking with Jim at Brightscreen, he pointed out that brightness would increase the view of the Viso, something like 300%. And they have a promotion which saves 10% .... so I went for it. The Viso should be sent in for the install to be done. (His recommendation). ABOUT US : Brightscreen!, 27 years producing the best, and still going strong I eagerly await its return. Long live the Viso ! What are the going rates for a Visoflex III? For a Bellows II? For a 2nd gen. Telyt-V 280mm f/4.8? For all the little adapter rings??? In Europe... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jev Posted October 17, 2008 Share #37 Posted October 17, 2008 Luigi Thank you so much Now I have a fully working Macro system with M8, Viso3 and bellows Thanks Jev Here is the simplest way to use TE 135 as a macro lens (using the lenshead only) : the tube 16471 can be doubled if necessary, or substituted by the 16472 that is longer (nad, of course, you can also couple the 2 items) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted October 17, 2008 Share #38 Posted October 17, 2008 I have used a 280 with a Viso III, and today an old f5/400 Telyt in LTM turned up. I'll slip an old LTM-M adaptor on it and see what happens. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eleskin Posted October 17, 2008 Share #39 Posted October 17, 2008 Chris, Which 280 do you have, and how do you like it? I just bought one yesterday on ebay never used in box for $230 US dollars and cannot wait to use it. Ed PS: I first bought a Visoflex 2 for $75 without a prism, and I found a Visoflex 3 with the Leitz logo etched off with prism for $130. This was mint except the etching off of the Leitz logo. Some in this thread think the Visoflex 2 cannot be used with the M8. I use it, but only with the prism from the Visoflex 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted October 17, 2008 Share #40 Posted October 17, 2008 ... Some in this thread think the Visoflex 2 cannot be used with the M8. I use it, but only with the prism from the Visoflex 3. Very glad to hear it. Can you use your Viso II as it was designed or do you have to trip the mirror another way? Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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