skimmel Posted September 29, 2006 Share #1 Posted September 29, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am confused about the DNG format. I thought for some reason that the point of DNG is that it is universal so can be read by any program. Specifically, I tried to open the DNG image from the M8 posted on this forum with Raw Shooter and it didn't seem to recognize the file, even though Raw Shooter does recognize other DNGs. So, for each new camera, does a software manufacturer need to update it's program to support that camera's DNG? (I suspect the answer is yes which is a bummer since I really like using Raw Shooter and it's no longer being updated -- separate from Adobe.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 29, 2006 Posted September 29, 2006 Hi skimmel, Take a look here M8 and DNG-compatible programs. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
robsteve Posted September 29, 2006 Share #2 Posted September 29, 2006 Lightroom Beta 4 will open the the M8 DNG files. If you were a RAW Shooter Premium owner, Lightroom will be available as a free download when the retail version is released. Rawshooter Premium was the only version of RawShooter that would open the DMR files and we will get continued support for them in Lightroom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimmel Posted September 30, 2006 Author Share #3 Posted September 30, 2006 Thanks. Didn't notice the free upgrade to Lightroom -- pretty nice deal. So, I guess DNG is specific to the camera that produces the file. Too bad, I really like Rawshooter. I could try C1 (since it comes free with the M8), but I finally settled on a good workflow and software I'm used to -- guess that's the price of the "early digital age." Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermcwerner Posted September 30, 2006 Share #4 Posted September 30, 2006 Another bit of information. SILKYPIX Developer Studio 2 does NOT support the M8.They told me "they have no schedule to support LEICA M8 at now." Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterlenz Posted September 30, 2006 Share #5 Posted September 30, 2006 So, I guess DNG is specific to the camera that produces the file. Roger that!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted September 30, 2006 Share #6 Posted September 30, 2006 Thanks. Didn't notice the free upgrade to Lightroom -- pretty nice deal." Probably the best deal was the one the two Danes that created RawShooter got from Adobe. I'm happy for them, but sorry that we've lost an excellent indipendent software house now that they've been assimilated by the collective. Let's hope they are able to bring their ideas to bear on Adobe. - Carl Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 30, 2006 Share #7 Posted September 30, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Interesting the story on that has a little history the two gents came orginally from Capture One and created Raw Shooter than Adobe buys them and puts it in Lightroom. So you have the ida's from several in Lightroom . Which thebeta seems pretty good .I am starting to like the package software with the library and such. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogopix Posted September 30, 2006 Share #8 Posted September 30, 2006 Open standards are pretty vague. It is like a standard 'cup' standard could be, 'circular cylinder with one end closed, one end open, optional taper" parameters are;, radius, length, taper" Then to build a rack to hold cups you need to read the meta data on radius. there are 2' cups and 3' cups, so you make a rack with holes 2.2 and 3.3 inches Then somebody comes out with a 4' cup. Looks like YOUR rack does not work for the new cup! :-( Hope it helps Victor Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimmel Posted September 30, 2006 Author Share #9 Posted September 30, 2006 Thanks to all for the insights. In thinking about my next raw converter (I will stay with rawshooter as long as I can, but eventually, it won't support my newer cameras), I have to consider the long-term viability of the company. Right now it seems it's Lightroom vs. Capture One. Adobe is, I think, a pretty solid bet to be around for a long time. Phase One (Capture 1) is obviously a favorite around this forum and will ship with the M8 so seems like a strong contender. I have to admit that I tried out an earlier version of C1 and didn't like it nearly as much as Raw Shooter nor did I feel I was getting superior results to ACR (but that could be that I never made it up to the flat part of the learning curve). I assume that Phase One software will be around for a long time, but is it really as solid a long-term prospect as Adobe? (I don't use a Mac so Aperature is out, right?) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicaiste Posted September 30, 2006 Share #10 Posted September 30, 2006 BTW, in spite of its slightly bigger CCD, the M8's DNG are almost half the size of the DMR's DNG. Lucien Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptomsu Posted October 1, 2006 Share #11 Posted October 1, 2006 I already mentioned on another thread that my experience with PS CS2 and DNG is, that whenever I open a DNG in PS and store again, it makes out of the 19MB a 10MB file. So I am obviously loosing information! If I use Capture One Pro, this program does not change the original data (file size). So I am no longer convinced about the Adobe products and especially not about their DNG implementation - or did I do something wrong? Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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