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Yes, hopefully it is the D-Lux4 but I have to say this time I think I would save my money and just by the Panasonic version.

 

The hotshoe is a great addition and I wonder if those bounce flash guns shown in the accesory section might also work with the M8? Now, that would be cool.

 

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All of which is why I am seldom the first on my block with a new toy. The specs sound great and the addition of a hot shoe and a removable viewfinder is intriguing. As a traditional photographer approaching age 70, I really am having a hard time getting used to holding the camera out away from my eye.

 

I'm new to the forum; joined because I just bought my first Leica in decades, a minty D-Lux 2. I used to have M2s and M3s, but I succumbed first to autofocus and then to Contax and then to digital capture. I had heard about the noise problems with the D-Lux 2 and its Panasonic near-twin, but I downloaded profiles for the Panasonic version to my Noise Ninja 2. It really takes care of the noise (including ISO 400). The primary reason I bought the D-Lux 2 was the 16:9 aspect ratio, and as soon as I get photos worth posting, I will do so. I like everything I've seen thus far about this Leica user forum.

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Why don't they ever increase the size of the ccd like sigma dp1.

the photos i got from my lx2 looks like crap in %100 size.

 

actually i think they did, well marginally anyways

and Mp is less

 

"The LX2's sensor was widely considered a weak link in an otherwise strong chain, with poorly controlled noise and compressed dynamic range limiting the previous-generation camera's appeal with those serious about image quality. From all indications, Panasonic went back to the drawing board for the LX3, returning with a completely redesigned 10.1 megapixel, 1/1.63-inch CCD."

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actually i think they did, well marginally anyways

and Mp is less

 

"The LX2's sensor was widely considered a weak link in an otherwise strong chain, with poorly controlled noise and compressed dynamic range limiting the previous-generation camera's appeal with those serious about image quality. From all indications, Panasonic went back to the drawing board for the LX3, returning with a completely redesigned 10.1 megapixel, 1/1.63-inch CCD."

 

This I cannot figure out. Panasonic says:

 

"While the LX2 also featured a large CCD – its 1/1.65" CCD was just slightly smaller than the LX3's 1/1.63" unit"

 

That's just a 0.02 difference! :confused:

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Thus far samples from this new camera do not bode well at all...

 

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX3 preview with image samples - infoSync World

 

:eek:

 

Wow! Those are indeed crap, not so much for the smeary detail (which I suspect would be the same on a lot of P&S at 100) but for the flat colours. There is, after all, a "Summicron" fronting this beast. A bit weird that Panasonic would let someone blast away with a product if, for example, it does not have the final versions of firmware etc in it. If this is the finished produt I'd want to see a full DPreview work up with samples before contemplating a purchase.

 

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The LX-2 had 10.4 total pixels and 10.2 effective pixels

The LX-3 has 11.3 total pixels and 10.3 effective pixels

 

What does this rather large (1mp) disparity between total and effective pixels mean?

 

The LX-2 in 16:9 had a resolution of 4224 x 2376

The LX-3 in 16:9 has a resolution of 3968 x 2232

 

The LX-2 in 3:2 had a resolution of 3568 x 2376

The LX-3 in 3:2 has a resolution of 3776 x 2520

 

The LX-2 in 4:3 had a resolution of 3168 x 2376

The LX-3 in 4:3 has a resolution of 3648x 2736

 

So the LX-2 had higher resolution in 16:9 but lower in 3:2 and 4:3 which suggests they are no longer using the 16:9 sensor which I guess is obvious given the lack of a widescreen display. It seems they have gone back to the typical 4:3 sensor used in most compact P&S cameras. Not to be confused with the 4/3 format which is much larger but also a 4:3 ratio

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Don't forget, it's only a $500 camera and the fact that not all Summicrons are created equal ;)

 

We need some positive thinking here, folks ... at least there has never been a Summicron this cheap. Have you even heard of a Vario-Summicron? it's a broken record. LOL

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That first sample shot is terrible, but to really see what that camera is (or isn't) capable of, we need to check out its raw output developed with a good converter and noise reduced in a specialized tool like Neat Image.

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And at print and display size? 100% is interesting, but we don't look at photographs with a magnifying glass.

 

I agree but sometimes we need to crop them.

i think that's a good camera with 2f and 24-60mm range but the still the sensor needs to get bigger for both pixel quality and shallower depth of field.

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