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M8 and Noctilux As Seen In LFI

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In the LFI that just arrived in my mailbox, there's a pretty terrific piece on a pair of Dutch brothers who use the Noctilux to shoot fashion photography. It's interesting because while a couple of photographs have that patented Nocti bokeh, several of the pictures are razor sharp, or at least certain planes are sharp. The photography of the model's faces, though, tends to be spot on in focus and sharpness, with blurring as you get further from the eyes. In these guys' hands, the Nocti works, but it draws me to two conclusions.

 

1.) Perhaps I need to get my Nocti to Solms, because even allowing for backfocus, I could never get something that sharp when wide open.

 

2) I suspect many of the images are shot at 2.8, where the Nocti takes on a different, more traditional characteristic. That said, they could probably get most of what they need with the Summilux, and not have to strain their arms lifting an M8 and Nocti...

 

For those who have seen the article, does the Noctilux seem to perform them as it does for you? If the answer is yes, and at 1.0, then darn, I'm going to have to get this backfocus thing dealt with...

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There's are two other possibilities. 1) They use a tripod. (Don't think so.) 2) They have younger eyes, and can focus better. Ah, now that's a possibility... and something the Solms hospital can't correct...

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I used to get very sharp photos using the Noctilux and film. It was my favorite lens. I haven't been able to get the same sharpness with the M8 and Noctilux. I even sent them both to Solms to be matched and I still can't focus it right. It could be my old eyes, too,

, but the 75/1.4 works fine and is super sharp with the M8. I need to practice more but when I couldn't get sharp photos after sending it to Solms, I just gave up. Hope you have better luck!

 

Tina

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I think a lot has to do with a combination of old eyes and the fact that digital reveals flaws that we didn't see with film. After saying that I'd always ask people to judge a lens from prints and not by looking at 100% magnification views in Photoshop. Revisiting many of my film shots reveals that compared to a Tri-X the M8 is a far superior device in terms of resolution., but yet the old Tri-X negatives still look very good when they're printed.

 

Yet after all that I've just sold my Noctilux. Perhaps I was sucked into the quest for higher resolution - I'm not so sure, but whatever the reason I'd hardly used my Noctilux since buying the M8. The fact that I just about got twice what I paid for the lens in 2002 helps to soften the blow.

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Jaap

 

Only one of those shots that you have linked to has that true "only with a Nocti" feeling as far as I am concerned.

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Noctilux and film are a perfect match and I may go back to using my M7 and film just to use the Noctilux. Most of the photos from this one on are made with the Noctilux:

 

Weldi Brooks photo - Tina Manley photos at pbase.com

 

I agree, Steve, that it's probably a combination of old eyes and digital showing up more than film. So, just for the Noctilux, it will be film.

 

Tina

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Jaap

 

Only one of those shots that you have linked to has that true "only with a Nocti" feeling as far as I am concerned.

 

Just a link, Andy... #3 and #6 I would say for the Noctilux look.

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Go here,

Divisions of photography

to see the intro(2nd) page of my website where I have done a short (?) review of the M8 + Noctilux. Nothing more than my 'Love Affair' of the combo wherin I present about 20 pics done with it.

 

Briefly, my combo was sent back to Solms (actually twice) and returned in what I consider perfect focus. OOF shots are now my fault, I believe.

It is my most used combo when shooting for myself.

 

Edit: I should add, perhaps unneccesarily, that 99% of my shots were @ f1.0, otherwise, why use this lens!

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Back focusing issues aside try a RF eyepiece magnifier, there is an inexpensive one sold on eBay that magnifies 1.25X and will make focusing much easier.

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Here's a link to (some of) the photo's used in the LFI article in higher resolution:

 

Dutch House of Photography

 

I think they just shot *a lot* of photo's with the noctilux at F1, use focus bracketing. They use professional models which are used to stand completely still.

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Thank you for linking to their site. Yes, those are the shots. And they are, I believe, quite wonderful. But seeing them: the perfection in focus (as compared to what I know I can do) can't be explained by younger eyes, I guess. If these are shot at f/1.0, then I think I do need to get my Nocti, which I adore, better calibrated with my M8. It's not just me! There's a little bit of a focus issue.

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Noctilux and film are a perfect match and I may go back to using my M7 and film just to use the Noctilux. Most of the photos from this one on are made with the Noctilux:

 

Tina,

 

Your photographs are inspirational; not just those posted here today but also from your smugsmug galleries.

 

Have you any examples of Noctilux and M8?

 

Dubois

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John, those fashion images are extremely post-processed (and well done at that). But viewing them at web resolution, with all the PS trickery, it makes me assume they've gone through some punishing rounds of sharpening and high-pass filters to get that crisp sparkle. My young-ish eyes (I can focus a 90 cron at f/2) were able to focus an Nocti with no problem. The sharpest point in the frame was right where I intended it, no back focus, and yet it didn't appear as sharp as the Dutch photos, and I assume that if you viewed prints of those Dutch photos you'd see the Nocti flaws become more apparent.

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Thanks, Dubois. I don't have many M8/Noctilux photos posted because most of mine miss the focus

Here's one, though:

 

Belly Dancer, II photo - Tina Manley photos at pbase.com

 

Converted to B&W.

 

Tina

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Thanks, Dubois. I don't have many M8/Noctilux photos posted because most of mine miss the focus Here's one, though:

 

Belly Dancer, II photo - Tina Manley photos at pbase.com

 

Converted to B&W.

 

Tina

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Tina wouldn't that photo be better titled Boy in amazement? Whatever.

May I ask why you maintain 2 different photo sites?

I have a hard enough time maintaining and updating my one site.

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John,

my Noctilux went to Solms twice, the second time together with my M8 and my 35/1.4asph as well as the 75 and 50 Summilux lenses for calibration.

In my case I could still not focus the Nocti reliable. It has nothing to do with my eyes, but more with focus shift and also with the fact that the fault seemed to be slightly different at different distances.

Also digital sensors seem to show it more clearly, if the focus is not spot on.

I sold it and rather use my 50asph or the Zeis 50/1.5.

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Thanks, Dubois. I don't have many M8/Noctilux photos posted because most of mine miss the focus Here's one, though:

 

Delightful and enchanting

 

 

Dubois

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Here's a link to (some of) the photo's used in the LFI article in higher resolution:

 

Dutch House of Photography

 

I think they just shot *a lot* of photo's with the noctilux at F1, use focus bracketing. They use professional models which are used to stand completely still.

 

Hmm... this is f****** great!

Is it film?

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