akiralx Posted June 12, 2008 Share #1 Posted June 12, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Two shots from the same trip: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/55274-zeiss-biogon-21-f45-and-summarit-35-f25-shots/?do=findComment&comment=579973'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 12, 2008 Posted June 12, 2008 Hi akiralx, Take a look here Zeiss Biogon 21 f/4.5 and Summarit 35 f/2.5 shots. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
gumshoecamus Posted June 12, 2008 Share #2 Posted June 12, 2008 Two shots from the same trip: lovely ! simple and beautiful. I have yet to get to grips with the 21/4.5 so this is heartening -- have you any tips ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted June 13, 2008 Share #3 Posted June 13, 2008 Alex, I suppose that the first shot is the 21mm, right? I'm really curious about it, may you share some other samples together with your opinion? best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsonkirk Posted June 13, 2008 Share #4 Posted June 13, 2008 A 21mm Zeiss opinion: Had you noticed the f2.8 costs only a little more than the f4.5? I'm very pleased with the former & would find f4.5 rather limiting. But I happen to like external finders, so intrusion of the larger lens into the viewfinder is of no concern to me. Kirk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiralx Posted June 13, 2008 Author Share #5 Posted June 13, 2008 Yes the f/2.8 may be a better choice, though I will be using the f/4.5 outdoors mostly and was quite concerned about size and weight. I'll post some more examples in a few days. I like the Biogon, very well made, focus ring stiffer than my Leica lenses but just as pleasing to use. The pinch lens cap doesn't feel 100% secure. The hood is nice, solid and quite shallow. I have the Zeiss 25/28 finder but there seems to be a consensus that the M8 viewfinder extemities correspond so may just use that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted June 13, 2008 Share #6 Posted June 13, 2008 A 21mm Zeiss opinion: Had you noticed the f2.8 costs only a little more than the f4.5? I'm very pleased with the former & would find f4.5 rather limiting. But I happen to like external finders, so intrusion of the larger lens into the viewfinder is of no concern to me. Kirk I guess it's not just a matter of speed/size/dimensions, Zeiss marked the 21 f4.5 as a C* lens that is supposed for "classic". It should be an interesting difference in the way they draws, especially if i refer to Sean Reid's review of both... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiralx Posted June 15, 2008 Author Share #7 Posted June 15, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) I guess it's not just a matter of speed/size/dimensions, Zeiss marked the 21 f4.5 as a C* lens that is supposed for "classic".It should be an interesting difference in the way they draws, especially if i refer to Sean Reid's review of both... I didn't realise the significance - are C* lenses supposed to demonstrate a 'classic' look? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted June 15, 2008 Share #8 Posted June 15, 2008 I didn't realise the significance - are C* lenses supposed to demonstrate a 'classic' look? Yep, Alex, they are. It's nice and somehow courageous to make this lens from CV-Zeiss. Ciao! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted June 15, 2008 Share #9 Posted June 15, 2008 From Zeiss' web site "The C in the C Biogon T* 4,5/21 ZM name stands for both ‘compact’ and ‘classic’, the latter referring to a legendary Zeiss design from 1952. Smaller and lighter than the Biogon T* 2,8/21 ZM, it is ideal for traveling and for photographing unobtrusively in public places." - Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
desire Posted June 15, 2008 Share #10 Posted June 15, 2008 Love those pictures. Keep them up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted June 16, 2008 Share #11 Posted June 16, 2008 I had the Biogon 21/4.5 on a Contax IIa and loved it. Gorgeous lens, compact, light, inconspicuous--and beautiful images. OK, "C" is for classic. Leica is doing something similar with the Summarits--they don't revert to older designs as some of the C lenses do, but they also don't use such technology such as aspherics, so both are in a sense more traditional designs that still use modern formulas, coatings, glasses etc. Similar moves from both companies. And in the days that the original 21/4.5 was current, it was generally agreed that Zeiss had the best wide-angles on the market. As your results show, Alex, it's a wonderful lens. Nice pictures, and a nice choice of lenses! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiralx Posted June 20, 2008 Author Share #12 Posted June 20, 2008 I had the Biogon 21/4.5 on a Contax IIa and loved it. Gorgeous lens, compact, light, inconspicuous--and beautiful images. OK, "C" is for classic. Leica is doing something similar with the Summarits--they don't revert to older designs as some of the C lenses do, but they also don't use such technology such as aspherics, so both are in a sense more traditional designs that still use modern formulas, coatings, glasses etc. Similar moves from both companies. And in the days that the original 21/4.5 was current, it was generally agreed that Zeiss had the best wide-angles on the market. As your results show, Alex, it's a wonderful lens. Nice pictures, and a nice choice of lenses! Thanks you for your kind words - I like the 21/4.5 a lot. And no vignetting etc on that first pic. Here's another shot from later in the same day, with the 35mm Summarit - a few specular highlights in this one: 'Lost Charlie' Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/55274-zeiss-biogon-21-f45-and-summarit-35-f25-shots/?do=findComment&comment=586020'>More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted June 20, 2008 Share #13 Posted June 20, 2008 I really like the colors and tones in your 21/3.4 images. Could you tell me how you process them (raw in which software/which profiles)? thanks a lot, Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacarape Posted June 20, 2008 Share #14 Posted June 20, 2008 I had the Biogon 21/4.5 on a Contax IIa and loved it. Gorgeous lens, compact, light, inconspicuous--and beautiful images. I use the original on a IIIa, but since the meter died, I don't find it as much fun. Thanks for posting the pictures, you have me thinking I should try to trade the old Zeiss 21 for a current model for my MP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumshoecamus Posted June 20, 2008 Share #15 Posted June 20, 2008 alex's great landscapes have me making an extra effort to only use this lens for a while, to get a feel for it. it is very sharp and -- unusually for a wide lens -- seems to produce a very flat field. 5am this morning in south london (I couldn't sleep). the 'gerkin' is behind that chimney ! http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/images/attach/jpg.gif Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/55274-zeiss-biogon-21-f45-and-summarit-35-f25-shots/?do=findComment&comment=586298'>More sharing options...
batmobile Posted June 21, 2008 Share #16 Posted June 21, 2008 the 21 4.5 C may be based on an old design but it is very modern in character with respect to high contrast, low distortion and very high resolution. It is vertainly not classic looking in the way old lenses may be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocheung Posted September 5, 2008 Share #17 Posted September 5, 2008 I have this lens too. Very good. At the very first moment, I plan to buy 2.8. But due the better size, weigh, and comparably less distortion and better vignetting control, eventually I pick the F4.5 with a CV finder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocheung Posted September 5, 2008 Share #18 Posted September 5, 2008 Hello Alex. I am Alex too, from Hong Kong. So coincident we share the same name and the two lens. I am quite impressive to these two lens. Hopefully you may share more shots with us. Especially the summarit since Leica doesn't promote this lens very well. It is quite difficult for us to talk to other friends since it seems that there are not many people are very keen on this lens. I have post some of my B&W in another post. Please enjoy. http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/other/50763-35-summarit-bokeh-imgs-3.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonio-p Posted May 4 Share #19 Posted May 4 On 12/6/2008 at 14:05, akiralx said: Due scatti dello stesso viaggio: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Excuse me, what camera were these photos taken on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roelandinho Posted May 4 Share #20 Posted May 4 1 hour ago, antonio-p said: Excuse me, what camera were these photos taken on? Leica M8 or Leica M8.2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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