pascal_meheut Posted September 10, 2006 Share #121 Posted September 10, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) That maybe true if you let Wal-mart directly print off your memory card. Use your head ... if you only shoot film, you don't even have to buy a computer, not to mention expensive software, printers, ink cartridges and papers ... and you can avoid bothering with people living in a strange world on the Internet. Sure and I will not scan my slides because good quality Ilfochrome is so cheap... Thanks for the "Use your head" BTW, says a lot about you. So long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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geoff Posted September 10, 2006 Share #122 Posted September 10, 2006 The 'door' looks very odd don't you think? And why such a large protruding catch? I can imagine that snagging on stuff a lot, and poking into your nose/face! Also it would suggest that it opens downwards....... I glad other people have notice this too. It bothers me and is not very ergonomic. I would much rather prefer a push-spring-open or slide over door for the data connection cover. However, I did note that it is rendered differently from that on the RangeFinderForum.com M8 images. Additionally, it is not shown in the top view image provided. Now, can we move on to discussing that other little knobbie on the left side of the base plate and whether it would indicate if it was removable or not? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/4696-the-m8-puzzle-game/?do=findComment&comment=47055'>More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted September 10, 2006 Share #123 Posted September 10, 2006 The door is for the USB connector. And yes, the bottom plate is removable: this is the way to access the battery and the SD card. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted September 10, 2006 Share #124 Posted September 10, 2006 whai is "Protect"? is intentional overexosure by one stop any different than cutting the iso in half? so the question is, do you need an exposure comp button or an iso button? Sean: were you able to give any feed back to Leica and were they able to make use of it? Hi jlm, As I'm sure you realize, changing EV comp. doesn't necessarily cause under or over-exposure. It just tweaks the exposure away from what the camera automatically "thinks" is best. So, I would argue that it is very important for one to have quick access and display of both EV comp and ISO information. It certainly is important to me in my work. With regards to my input to Leica regarding new products, I'll be able to talk about that somewhat after September 15. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 11, 2006 Share #125 Posted September 11, 2006 Sorry those images are about as fake as you can get, Exactly the buttons from the DMR and the Control wheel. Even a bad PS job at that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 11, 2006 Share #126 Posted September 11, 2006 No door latch would look like that to get to the firewire. it is a inset rubber piece like the DMR not some protruding knob. That is just not leica like. Sorry guys , i simply can't buy this as real, it looks really nice in many ways but i am seeing stuff that is just flat out too odd looking and no camera would look identical to the DMR. they just won't use exactly the same buttons. just call me a non believer on these images of it. Maybe i am wrong but Leica has held there ground on talk for this long , I find it hard to believe these images if real would not have been pulled. the only folks that have seen this are beta testers,retailers,distrubiutors and sales reps. if any of them put these out there would be far too high a price to be paid. I will wait till Friday than maybe i will eat crow but I doubt it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicapfile Posted September 11, 2006 Share #127 Posted September 11, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) I would suspicion the door next to the left lug is for The USB/Firewire connection along with external battery charging. Both uses would seem to be better facilitated by the body being upright. Whether it opens upward or downward, I would hope it is retained by a hinge of some sort. Otherwise it becomes one of those $50+ parts that gets lost. Best, Jerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlaurpic Posted September 11, 2006 Share #128 Posted September 11, 2006 I have visited this thread numerous times over the last few days, and I am surprised that no one has mentioned that the direct (that is, non-menu-driven) adjustments for ISO, exposure compensation, battery capacity and white balance of the R-d1 work extremely well. The R-d1 disappoints in other respects, granted, especially because of its short RF base, but the aforementioned mechanical adjustments work perfectly, at least for me. I have ordered and placed a deposit on the M8, but if ISO and exposure compensation can only be changed via the "television" on the back, that will be a disappointment. Small price to pay for accurate focusing, however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvaubel Posted September 11, 2006 Share #129 Posted September 11, 2006 ...........that the direct (that is, non-menu-driven) adjustments for ISO, exposure compensation, battery capacity and white balance of the R-d1 work extremely well............ I have ordered and placed a deposit on the M8, but if ISO and exposure compensation can only be changed via the "television" on the back, that be a disappointment Sean Reid agrees that quick and direct access to ISO and EV compansation are a must in a good RF design. Since it is believed he is a Beta tester (but under an NDA), I would imagine that putting 2 and 2 together........ Rex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrc Posted September 11, 2006 Share #130 Posted September 11, 2006 Sean Reid agrees that quick and direct access to ISO and EV compansation are a must in a good RF design. Since it is believed he is a Beta tester (but under an NDA), I would imagine that putting 2 and 2 together........ Rex Good point. JC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted September 11, 2006 Share #131 Posted September 11, 2006 Leave us not panic too early - on the far side of the LCD screen WILL BE REVEALED two additional buttons. One is labelled as the MENU button. The other is not labelled at all, which makes me think it is user-defined. Set that button as the ISO button (likely the default) in the setup menu - ONCE - and changing the ISO will be as easy as press button - twirl dial to correct ISO - release button - forever after. And just remember there are actually 5 MORE buttons with no other function in shooting mode - the four arrows and dot on the control dial (unless a DMR user can point out some use they have outside the review mode). I doubt Leica has made them ALL user definable buttons, but as my Leica rep has been saying a lot these days - "ya never know - ya just NEVER know." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted September 11, 2006 Share #132 Posted September 11, 2006 As for the mystery door on the left end: 1. it will not be for video playback. 2. it will not be for battery charging in-camera (Leica will provide a dedicated separate charger, just like other high-end cameras). 3. It likely will not even be for "mains" or AC power (who wants to use a Leica M "tethered" to a wall socket?). It will be either USB or Firewire connections (as a pro I hope for Firewire). 2. The door is hard plastic or perhaps even metal. Hinged on the front edge. The bump is a spring catch - press down on the top with a thumbnail and it releases the door to swing free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_f Posted September 11, 2006 Share #133 Posted September 11, 2006 FWIW, I was re-reading the article and apparently the tripod screw thread in the M8 is now centered - no more off-center screw thread ... (if this thing is true of course ;-) LCT, Réponse-Photo magazine claims that its next issue, which is due out Monday, will contain all specs and pics of the new M8. Can you see if you can get your hands on a copy? Thank you - Merci! John F. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 11, 2006 Share #134 Posted September 11, 2006 Look at the silver model there is a door on the right also. Hmmm http://www.summilux.net/photos3/Marc-A./Leica_20M8_20triptyque.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 11, 2006 Share #135 Posted September 11, 2006 Well if this what it is than my guess would be the dial is the exposure compensation with a half shutter pressed. It has to be here somewhere and given what i am seeing that my be the only way. I would say the right side door is for Power if anything and the left would be for the firewire. Firewire ports are always on the left side of the body. There is some bad PS techinque in these images , the shadows are a dead giveaway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted September 11, 2006 Share #136 Posted September 11, 2006 As a professional who has worked with digital since 2000, I would argue that it's very important to be able to see battery level in a gauge that's on all the time. If one is in the middle of a shoot, such as a wedding ceremony, sports event, etc., it's essential to have warning that he or she needs to switch batteries before the current one fails. One doesn't want to have a battery fail at a critical moment during the shoot. I scan my battery gauges constantly during a busy shoot and swap when I'm at about 1/4 to 1/3 charge. Reading between the lines, I expect Sean will have fed back his opinion on this to Leica if at some point during the development, they thought it was a neat idea to confine the battery indicator to a menu 7 clicks away. Hopefully, they will have listened to his advice. Ever tried driving a car with a broken fuel gauge? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted September 11, 2006 Share #137 Posted September 11, 2006 Guy, this is not a door; just the usual protection to avoid the strap to mark the body. And I guess that if the buttons and the wheels are the same as the DMR, that's for another good reason than the picture being a fake: Leica reused the design and the parts to: 1) save money 2) avoid a different ergonomy on every camera, they are not Canon for God's sake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted September 11, 2006 Share #138 Posted September 11, 2006 FWIW, I was re-reading the article and apparently the tripod screw thread in the M8 is now centered - no more off-center screw thread ... (if this thing is true of course ;-) LCT, Réponse-Photo magazine claims that its next issue, which is due out Monday, will contain all specs and pics of the new M8. Can you see if you can get your hands on a copy? Thank you - Merci! John F. Yes the screw thread is centered. Battery is on the left, just beneath the viewfinder and the SD card is on the right. And if Réponse Photo comes out today, I'll get one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravastar Posted September 11, 2006 Share #139 Posted September 11, 2006 Yes the screw thread is centered. Battery is on the left, just beneath the viewfinder and the SD card is on the right.And if Réponse Photo comes out today, I'll get one. Oh, there was me hoping third party grips such as Tom Abrahamsson's Rapidgrip would have fitted. Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted September 11, 2006 Share #140 Posted September 11, 2006 You still have a chance: if these images are a fake and if I do not know what I'm talking about. On the other hand, the camera has already been shown to a lot of people in France and I may as well know some of them... We'll see in a few days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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