Mauribix Posted January 31, 2008 Share #1 Posted January 31, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Finally AWB is working properly for a 5000€ camera, i can't regret my Olympus D no more(at last!). Anyway i hope this would be just the first step, still Leica has a lot of work to do (and you know what I'm talking about), but i hope they won't make us pay for, let me say, "natural evolution of the species M8", and i'm really thrilling since i read "the new firmware is downloadable for FREE from our website", i wouldn't be surprised to see next firmware downloadable with a paypal transaction:D indeed. Anyway, here i have some trouled lights situations, finally handled as i expected when i bought my camera 1 year ago. Maybe i will see noiseless improvement next time! best Maurizio Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/44149-awb-now-it-really-works/?do=findComment&comment=468629'>More sharing options...
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Paul Hart Posted January 31, 2008 Share #2 Posted January 31, 2008 New firmware installed without any problem and yes, it's much more accurate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Ortego Posted January 31, 2008 Share #3 Posted January 31, 2008 White Balance done right! Your selection of challenging examples is superb, especially the photo with the two costume masks. Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted January 31, 2008 Author Share #4 Posted January 31, 2008 White Balance done right! Your selection of challenging examples is superb, especially the photo with the two costume masks.Regards, Thanks Daniel! No art in here, but really dufficult situation to handle for my M8 (till now). I hope they'll fix my "power-on-with-need-to-shut" issue too next time! best Maurizio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted January 31, 2008 Share #5 Posted January 31, 2008 Ken Tenaka posted some tests this morning but that thread is no longer available, can't imagine why, any way, his pictures were very encouraging since they were before and after shots. Wilfredo Benitez-Rivera Photography Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptomsu Posted January 31, 2008 Share #6 Posted January 31, 2008 I did some test shots this evening with 1.2, well I am not saying that I have done a deep test, but what I saw - and I tried several mixed lightning conditions - the new AWB works very accurate and cannot easily be fooled Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
@bumac Posted January 31, 2008 Share #7 Posted January 31, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) It works better than the old FW. Even in mixed-light-situations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 31, 2008 Share #8 Posted January 31, 2008 No posts have been deleted, merely merged into one thread, as there were far too many discussing the same subject. (this one ) Did you use an IR filter for these shots, Maurizio? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted January 31, 2008 Author Share #9 Posted January 31, 2008 No posts have been deleted, merely merged into one thread, as there were far too many discussing the same subject. (this one ) Did you use an IR filter for these shots, Maurizio? Yes Andy! I used a leica UV/IR filter + 35lux asph. Did you noticed something strange? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted January 31, 2008 Share #10 Posted January 31, 2008 They look very clean. i think the purple chairs may have thrown Andy off, me too at first Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted January 31, 2008 Author Share #11 Posted January 31, 2008 They look very clean. i think the purple chairs may have thrown Andy off, me too at first it's a 35lux Asph's deserve! Please Guy, report my compliments for this to the engineers.This time the AWB is what i expected when i spent my money. Even if i learned to get rid of this, shooting always DNG, it's such a pleasure simply not to waste time with WB in PP for previews! I have a question for you to ask to Leica's staff: Who did ask for the sapphire glass screen? very best and compliments to you too since you're a part of this achievement!(was it hard to maintein the secret in these days? ) Very best Maurizio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieri Posted January 31, 2008 Share #12 Posted January 31, 2008 New AWB works really well here in Istanbul, Turkey as well - just in case people were wondering about it working out of Solms... very good job Leica, finally a great AWB and very good timing in having it off exactly at PMA, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted January 31, 2008 Share #13 Posted January 31, 2008 Maurizio, Most of your pics look fine for AWB, except I feel the last image, looks like it may be part of your desk, appears distinctly "surprise pink" as they say in the theatre. Of course I was not there and you may report that that was the colour of the light. But then AWB should 'neautralize' it anyway. What is your thought on that pic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted January 31, 2008 Share #14 Posted January 31, 2008 I honestly don't know where the sapphire glass came from. i think it is a good idea because they are handy . Maybe not a main feature for the camera though . I would have liked to see electronic frame lines , shutter and as the kicker the LCD screen. I would like to see 3 or 4 items bundled instead of two. Less overall time in Solms and get some meat out of the upgrade . i am going to talk to them about this very idea myself. i think we would have all liked 3 or 4 even at a higher price like 2100 US but get some stuff for the 4 week vacation time. I think most folks would agree with me on this. If electronic frame lines was tossed in the mix. I think we would see a larger audience jumping on it even if it was a touch more. Yes biting my tongue is a bit hard, I get excited and want to tell you folks. I stayed out of trouble this time. LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted January 31, 2008 Author Share #15 Posted January 31, 2008 Maurizio, Most of your pics look fine for AWB, except I feel the last image, looks like it may be part of your desk, appears distinctly "surprise pink" as they say in the theatre. Of course I was not there and you may report that that was the colour of the light. But then AWB should 'neautralize' it anyway. What is your thought on that pic? Interestin question, so i post some samples: In the first one you can see a shot of the whole scene (with 4 different light sources) and the frame that i captured in my post, then you can see almost the same shot, made with the same lens (i.e. the 35lux ASPH + Leica UV/IR filter) with the most correct WB that i could get (not a personal taste, but an objective set). It's interesting to note this: The camera AWB set the WB to 3350° and a +4 push with tint (ACR 3.6), my settings slightly corrected the WB to 3200° and -10 tint. Finally it's not perfect, but a great result i guess... maybe i could try to find a past similar shot if i still have it. Let me know Best regards Maurizio Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/44149-awb-now-it-really-works/?do=findComment&comment=468891'>More sharing options...
giordano Posted February 1, 2008 Share #16 Posted February 1, 2008 If electronic frame lines was tossed in the mix. Correct me if I'm wrong, Guy, ISTM that electronic frame lines can't be lightly tossed into the mix. Unless I've got the wrong end of the stick they would need (a) a LCD to replace the current metal frameline mask, with the necessary wiring ( an electronic distance sensor in the rangefinder mechanism, with its wiring © a processor to take the focal length information (from the existing switches behind the focal length preview lever and from the 6-bit coding information), factor in the distance information from ( and control the LCD. In other words, we seem to be looking at major work on the rangefinder and possibly a new rangefinder - which we're told is the most expensive component in the camera. Which doesn't mean it's not worth doing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted February 1, 2008 Share #17 Posted February 1, 2008 John it can be mechanical and electronic first they would take out the mechanical frame lines. Not a engineer here but my thoughts are the coding on the lens already lets the camera know which lens is on the body , so in firmware that data transfers like the shutter speed does in A mode to the finder and a white line frame line comes up with the correct dimension of the lens on the camera. Now the mechnical part is when you focus close as you do today than paralax is corrected for that when you focus close. That part they may have to leave in tact but be able to transfer the data electronically to the firmware to move the frame lines accordingly. Now i may have it wrong slightly and some of the engineers here could maybe describe this much better but it can be done fairly easy from what i am told. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEBnewyork Posted February 1, 2008 Share #18 Posted February 1, 2008 I honestly don't know where the sapphire glass came from. i think it is a good idea because they are handy . Maybe not a main feature for the camera though . I would have liked to see electronic frame lines , shutter and as the kicker the LCD screen. I would like to see 3 or 4 items bundled instead of two. Less overall time in Solms and get some meat out of the upgrade . i am going to talk to them about this very idea myself. i think we would have all liked 3 or 4 even at a higher price like 2100 US but get some stuff for the 4 week vacation time. I think most folks would agree with me on this. If electronic frame lines was tossed in the mix. I think we would see a larger audience jumping on it even if it was a touch more. Yes biting my tongue is a bit hard, I get excited and want to tell you folks. I stayed out of trouble this time. LOL Well since I still have 1.5 more years of warranty I thought I would put myself at the end of the line for upgrade 1 and perhaps then upgrade 2 would be ready..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted February 1, 2008 Share #19 Posted February 1, 2008 Maurizio, your second post of that picture (the C/U detail) is MUCH better than the original you posted. Did you work on it, or is this how the camera delivered it? I have just upgraded one of my M8's and I find overall the AWB to deliver colder colour than I believe to be best, but this a very premature comment. Over the W/E when I have some time I will do more extensive testing before upgrading the FW in my second body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted February 1, 2008 Share #20 Posted February 1, 2008 That's about right Erl . The previous firmware was about 500 to 600 to the warm side . Leica seems to have brought that down about the 200 k mark which still leaves you a touch warm which I like myself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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