jaapv Posted January 26, 2008 Share #41 Posted January 26, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) hello leica lovers! i want to switch to digital now, as it is getting more and more difficult to get films developed in a good quality. as i own some leica m-lenses i want to use them and buy a digital leica for them. but the big question is: should i buy the m8 (which is still making lot of trouble as i learned by reading this forum) or should i wait what leica will present at the photokina this year? best, jojo2 Are you really going to do what a number of anonymous voices on the Internet tell you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest tummydoc Posted January 26, 2008 Share #42 Posted January 26, 2008 He wouldn't be the first one here to do so. Or listen to the number of anonymous voices in their head Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Flatline Posted January 26, 2008 Share #43 Posted January 26, 2008 LOL at both the comments. Good point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAG Posted January 26, 2008 Share #44 Posted January 26, 2008 Are you really going to do what a number of anonymous voices on the Internet tell you? anonymous |əˈnänəməs| adjective (of a person) not identified by name; of unknown name : the anonymous author of Beowulf | the donor's wish to remain anonymous | an anonymous phone call. • having no outstanding, individual, or unusual features; unremarkable or impersonal : the anonymous black car waiting to take him to the airport | a faceless, anonymous group. On this forum, none of these apply… Personally, I followed here a number of very good advices from outstanding individuals with unusual features, remarkable and personal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo2 Posted January 28, 2008 Author Share #45 Posted January 28, 2008 thanks a lot for your replies! back to my second question: what is more reliable: silver or black chrome? i red in this forum that the black chrome of the m8 rubs up very fast, much faster than the black chrome of the m7, for example. best, jojo2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 28, 2008 Share #46 Posted January 28, 2008 anonymous |əˈnänəməs|adjective (of a person) not identified by name; of unknown name : the anonymous author of Beowulf | the donor's wish to remain anonymous | an anonymous phone call. • having no outstanding, individual, or unusual features; unremarkable or impersonal : the anonymous black car waiting to take him to the airport | a faceless, anonymous group. On this forum, none of these apply… Personally, I followed here a number of very good advices from outstanding individuals with unusual features, remarkable and personal. I find Beowulf an outstanding piece of writing.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted January 28, 2008 Share #47 Posted January 28, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) There are people who change cameras every other week. There are people who are professional photographers, or people who have valid reason to buy their camera for their business, and enjoy the write off, never actually experiencing a dollar out of their personal ledger. R-E provides enormous latitude in the business sense and the taxable. If you want a camera that stacks up long term, past the warranty comfort blanket yes it is fine to wait. The M8 camera delivers the files and mounts the best glass. The camera though, is a f I cant begin to explain how close the R9 came to dropping out of my hand and into the depths of the Nam Ou. I am confident the m8 wouldnt survive. Bastards cost me a fortune in film. Five k isnt much. The histrionocs in the middle of no where when the f thing goes f wheels f up? f Priceless. I'll f wait. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 28, 2008 Share #48 Posted January 28, 2008 thanks a lot for your replies! back to my second question: what is more reliable: silver or black chrome? Neither. What possible difference can the colour of the finish make to reliability? (However, everyone knows that black lenses take better photographs. ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2008 Share #49 Posted January 28, 2008 There are people who change cameras every other week.There are people who are professional photographers, or people who have valid reason to buy their camera for their business, and enjoy the write off, never actually experiencing a dollar out of their personal ledger. R-E provides enormous latitude in the business sense and the taxable. If you want a camera that stacks up long term, past the warranty comfort blanket yes it is fine to wait. The M8 camera delivers the files and mounts the best glass. The camera though, is a f I cant begin to explain how close the R9 came to dropping out of my hand and into the depths of the Nam Ou. I am confident the m8 wouldnt survive. Bastards cost me a fortune in film. Five k isnt much. The histrionocs in the middle of no where when the f thing goes f wheels f up? f Priceless. I'll f wait. If I felt that strong about a product I would not buy it.Lots of alternatives available.Personally both of mine work well.When the M9 comes out I will buy it.Lots of people will have issues with the M9 and the talk will be about the M10.Just like groundhog day.I personally think that many of the serial complainers probably do not own one.If I was that disatisfied I would change to a differant model/camera. Brian Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted January 28, 2008 Share #50 Posted January 28, 2008 I think the point is being confident that they pick up all the fixes and you dont have to worry too much about whether it is an early serial number late serial number whether it has visited solms for upgrades, whatever. And no one should expect it to do more than it is supposed to. What it does should be stand alone, and not subject to comparison. I could give a flying f what Nikon or Canon does. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted January 28, 2008 Share #51 Posted January 28, 2008 I personally think that many of the serial complainers probably do not own one. Hi Brian - I hear this assertion more and more - sounds a little over-defensive to me. But I think it's time to name names! So who says they have an M8 but doesn't? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEd Posted January 28, 2008 Share #52 Posted January 28, 2008 ....taken for a ride.... . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2008 Share #53 Posted January 28, 2008 Hi Brian - I hear this assertion more and more - sounds a little over-defensive to me. But I think it's time to name names! So who says they have an M8 but doesn't? Who can tell, but if most people buy a product and are not happy they change to one they are happy with.Not being defensive in the least.I have never had any serious issues with any Leica equipment and minor ones have "always" been attended to promply by Leica in the UK. Brian Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rob_x2004 Posted January 28, 2008 Share #55 Posted January 28, 2008 Who can tell, but if most people buy a product and are not happy they change to one they are happy with.Not being defensive in the least.I have never had any serious issues with any Leica equipment and minor ones have "always" been attended to promply by Leica in the UK.Brian Go to GetDPI and see how many m8 stalwarts have since got Nikon, another canon. ricchoh, or DMR I guess. Words are cheap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccis Posted January 28, 2008 Share #56 Posted January 28, 2008 Jojo - Go ahead and buy now... I just bought another M8 on Friday and will probably get another within a month or two (that way I'll have a body per lens and plenty of backup)... Forget about all the rumors... Riccis Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 28, 2008 Share #57 Posted January 28, 2008 There is no need to carry two bodies with digital as there was with film, for two ISOs or for b&w and colour; however, without reasonable-range zoomlenses Vinay, when I crashed one M8 in the middle of Africa, what would I have done without a second one? My wife's Clux-1 will not take a Visoflex..... Changing lenses in very inclement/dusty conditions is not advisable. Two bodies is more versatile. And in fast developing situations, changing hands is a lot faster than changing lenses, as there are virtually no zooms on the M8.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 28, 2008 Share #58 Posted January 28, 2008 Go to GetDPI and see how many m8 stalwarts have since got Nikon, another canon. ricchoh, or DMR I guess. Words are cheap. What is wrong with getting a DMR? I did not sell my M8 for it....The cameras are complementary, and that goes for Nikons,Canons etc. as well. Words may be cheap, these cameras are not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted January 28, 2008 Share #59 Posted January 28, 2008 Nothing at all. Best files I ever saw. Why doesnt the m8 duplicate them? The op wants to buy a camera and there are so many people saying how great the m8 is without coming clean and saying "yes but I also have another forty grands worth of kit for when....." whatever. Anyway his bird looks like Luci Lui....so whatever he shoots her with.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 28, 2008 Share #60 Posted January 28, 2008 Hmmm The different uses for RF and SLR systems have been clear since time immemorial. If somebody has both of similar quality to use as intended I cannot qualify that as "coming clean" And yes, DPI has a large proportion of pro's and advanced amateurs who do indeed have the inclination to use both systems side by side. So what? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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