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My search did not bring up a thread dedicated to the 40mm focal length, which seems a bit neglected because Leica M cameras do not provide framelines for it.
In search of a lens with a "classic look and rendering" I stumbled upon the Voigtländer Nokton Classic 40mm F1.4 and begin to like that focal length.

Nokton Classic 40/1.4 @ f/2.8 on M9:

 

Nokton Classic 40/1.4 @ f/2.0 on M9:

 

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vor 1 Stunde schrieb Ernstk:

You should look at the Leitz 40mm f2 Summicron-C.

Thanks for recommending and linking to the 40mm Cron but personally I have a preference for lenses with F1.4 or even wider apertures. Nevertheless, this thread is dedicated to 40mm shots in general (also from the M8/M8.2, where this lens gives a viewing angle similar to 50mm lenses).

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Well I'm happy this thread has started as for me, 40mm is a great first lens.  Because it's not 35 or 50 you'll be having to get to used to judging the framelines on a digital M for composition.  But once you're familiar with that you can decide on and be prepared for either of the other aforementioned focal lengths.  I used to prefer the 28/50 combination with a 35mm if taking only one lens.  But that one lens solution has now been superseded by the Nokton which @3D-Kraft.com has as it's optically correct, can be fast apertured if you want it to be, has the traditional characteristics wide open and is sharp closed down, ie its very flexible and can be used a number of ways, much like a traditional Summilux on which its lens design is based.  For such a fast lens, it's also wonderfully small, one of the reasons I use rangefinders.  Because of all this, I doubt I need another 40 (a Summicron 40mm will be too similar to me to the Summicron 4 35mm which I already have).  As a Sonnar fan, the Rollei 40mm F2.8 was on my radar.  My interest in that has disappeared since acquiring the Voigt, but I'm more than happy to be convinced otherwise and hope to see images taken with that lens here.  Further, I also hope to see images here taken with the SC version of the Nokton as I own the MC version per the image below.

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Nokton Classic MC 40mm F1.4/ M-E 220 

 

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For me the 40mm focal length is the best out of two worlds: 35 and 50mm 🙌

 

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1 hour ago, gammarART said:

For me the 40mm focal length is the best out of two worlds: 35 and 50mm 🙌

 

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Are these taken with Leica/ rangefinder equipment?

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vor 11 Stunden schrieb gammarART:

For me the 40mm focal length is the best out of two worlds: 35 and 50mm 🙌

The first camera, that my father gave me in my youth, was a Rollei 35 SE, that had a 40mm f/2.8 lens. Perhaps, also this is one of the reasons, why this focal length feels so natural and familiar for me.

At daylight, the Nokton Classic 40/1.4 performs good from f/2.0. At night, the f/1.4 may provide some interesting bokeh balls, that remind me a little bit on the Noctilux 50/1.0 that I (unfortunately) sold some years ago:

Another shot with the Nokton Classic 40/1.4 on M9 at f/2.8 (or may be even f/4.0) - still som (nice) vignetting:

 

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For the CV Nokton 40/1.2 ASPH (and 10 other lenses), Cosina announced discontinuation: https://www.cosina.co.jp/news/フォクトレンダー-一部製品生産終了のお知らせ(2/
(you can put that to Google translate etc.)

About the reasons, there is some speculation - may be they get some successors or may be, they just change the barrel design (like for the Canon version).

But yes - this thread is meant for images and not just discussion.

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On 10/16/2024 at 11:10 AM, Ray Vonn said:

...the 40mm f1.4 Nokton......can be fast apertured if you want it to be, has the traditional characteristics wide open and is sharp closed down, ie its very flexible and can be used a number of ways, much like a traditional Summilux on which its lens design is based.  For such a fast lens, it's also wonderfully small, one of the reasons I use rangefinders....

...Because of all this, I doubt I need another 40......As a Sonnar fan, the Rollei 40mm F2.8 was on my radar.  My interest in that has disappeared since acquiring the Voigt, but I'm more than happy to be convinced otherwise and hope to see images taken with that lens here...

Like you, Ray, I am a huge advocate of the 40mm f1.4 Nokton; it really does pair together what is a fantastic focal-length with the rendering of a v1 / v2 (1960-1995) 35mm Summilux.

The Rollei 40mm f2.8 Sonnar is (in 40mm terms) the proverbial "Horse of a Different Colour" and, like the Nokton, is an absolute jewel of a lens. One came into my possession under very fortuitous circumstances a while back but, unfortunately, for numerous disparate and unforseen reasons I've not yet had the opportunity to do the lens justice.

Stating the obvious the Rollei is giving away two stops in comparison to the Nokton so 'Ultimate Wide-Open Boke' is not the 'raison d'être' of the Sonnar. It truly does exist primarily for those photographers who have a preference for this unusual focal-length and who also have a penchant for the rendering of a Sonnar.

Just for fun here are a couple of snaps grabbed recently with the Sonnar. Both taken on an M Monochrome + Leitz Or filter;

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EDIT : Just for fun here's a pic of the Rollei Sonnar. It really is TINY!;

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41 minutes ago, pippy said:

Like you, Ray, I am a huge advocate of the 40mm f1.4 Nokton; it really does pair together what is a fantastic focal-length with the rendering of a v1 / v2 (1960-1995) 35mm Summilux.

The Rollei 40mm f2.8 Sonnar is (in 40mm terms) the proverbial "Horse of a Different Colour" and, like the Nokton, is an absolute jewel of a lens. One came into my possession under very fortuitous circumstances a while back but, unfortunately, for numerous disparate and unforseen reasons I've not yet had the opportunity to do the lens justice.

Stating the obvious the Rollei is giving away two stops in comparison to the Nokton so 'Ultimate Wide-Open Boke' is not the 'raison d'être' of the Sonnar. It truly does exist primarily for those photographers who have a preference for this unusual focal-length and who also have a penchant for the rendering of a Sonnar.

Just for fun here are a couple of snaps grabbed recently with the Sonnar. Both taken on an M Monochrome + Leitz Or filter;

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Philip.

EDIT : Just for fun here's a pic of the Rollei Sonnar. It really is TINY!;

The Rollei seems to render like the C Sonnar T 50mm (well I suppose it would wouldn't it).  Which is great.  Lovely small size too.  Your standards are obviously higher than mine as I'd be quite happy with those images.  Many thanks.

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On 10/17/2024 at 3:20 AM, JoshuaRothman said:

I'm pretty sure that I want to pick up a 40mm lens soon, and am torn between

(a) the 40 Summicron-C / Minolta Rokkor 40mm
(b) the Voigtlander 40mm f/1.2
(c) a Ricoh GR IIIx
(d) a Q3 43

So I welcome more 40mm images!

What about the VL heliar?

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I love this focal length. One of my early lenses on Leica M was the 40mm Nokton f1.4. Fantastic imo. Here’s one I took with it in the m9p.

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