jrp Posted July 20 Share #1 Posted July 20 Advertisement (gone after registration) Which lens correction profile should be used with DXO software? Does the SL3 apply lens corrections (I assume that it does) or does it not and only include in the metadata the corrections that need to be applied? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SrMi Posted July 20 Share #2 Posted July 20 22 minutes ago, jrp said: Which lens correction profile should be used with DXO software? Does the SL3 apply lens corrections (I assume that it does) or does it not and only include in the metadata the corrections that need to be applied? SL3 does not apply lens correction to raw data. It provides lens correction metadata in the DNG that Adobe software uses. DxO has its own lens correction data, which is typically downloaded when needed. Here, you can check whether a lens is supported: https://www.dxo.com/supported-cameras/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted July 21 Author Share #3 Posted July 21 OK, so I should use the uncorrected profile. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted July 21 Share #4 Posted July 21 Doesn’t matter. DXO will ignore any LR settings completely and just work with the raw file directly. It then returns a modified file as a DNG (actually a TIFF in a DNG wrapper) to LR and you’ll need to copy/paste any changes you made prior to sending the file to DXO. Just don’t copy/paste the lens profile stuff and you’re golden. My DXO workflow is usually that I’ll play with a file in LR to see if I can do something with it I like. If I then think it’ll benefit from DXO Pure Raw I send it out and let DXO do its thing. Then I copy/paste my LR changes from the LR version to the DXO enhanced file. This approach means I’m not wasting time having every file go through DXO. Just the keepers I think will benefit from it. So no matter what profile or changes you make to you LR version DXO does its own thing. Gordon Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted July 21 Share #5 Posted July 21 4 hours ago, FlashGordonPhotography said: Doesn’t matter. DXO will ignore any LR settings completely and just work with the raw file directly. It then returns a modified file as a DNG (actually a TIFF in a DNG wrapper) to LR and you’ll need to copy/paste any changes you made prior to sending the file to DXO. A couple of nitpicks: The returned file is a linear DNG, which is demosaiced but does not have colors/WB applied like a TIFF. You can save the image's metadata to disk before transferring to DxO, and the changes will be automatically applied at reimport. 4 hours ago, FlashGordonPhotography said: My DXO workflow is usually that I’ll play with a file in LR to see if I can do something with it I like. If I then think it’ll benefit from DXO Pure Raw I send it out and let DXO do its thing. Then I copy/paste my LR changes from the LR version to the DXO enhanced file. Use Photo > Save Metadata to File before invoking DxO PureRaw, and the changes will be reapplied automatically. However, since DxO often creates a larger angle than LrC and Leica, masks and similar may no longer match (location changes). I wonder why you would use DxO's AI denoising instead of Adobe's. Adobe is much faster on my system, and the generated DNG files are much smaller. I used DxO a lot before Adobe launched its AI Denoise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted July 21 Author Share #6 Posted July 21 Well, when I try to export from dxo pl7 I get an ‘ambiguity processing limitations’ warning and looking at available modules shows that there are two available, with and without, camera corrections. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted July 21 Share #7 Posted July 21 Advertisement (gone after registration) 7 hours ago, SrMi said: I wonder why you would use DxO's AI denoising instead of Adobe's. Adobe is much faster on my system, and the generated DNG files are much smaller. I used DxO a lot before Adobe launched its AI Denoise. Sometimes I prefer DXO’s results. Especially with Fuji files. Sometimes I do both and see which I like best. If I’m at the point where I’m running files through AI NR, speed is no longer the concern. That’s another reason to play with the files first. I’ll be down to one or two files from a session. Gordon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted July 21 Share #8 Posted July 21 49 minutes ago, jrp said: Well, when I try to export from dxo pl7 I get an ‘ambiguity processing limitations’ warning and looking at available modules shows that there are two available, with and without, camera corrections. I have PL7 but use Pure Raw more, so this is a guess. Does PL7 have the option to apply the inbuilt profiles if you’re not using Deep Prime? So you’d have to have one deactivated to avoid that conflict of double profiling? Just a thought. I don’t have my laptop in front of me right now. Gordon Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted July 21 Author Share #9 Posted July 21 We’re both flying blind here, but this would take me back to my original question: which one should I use / remove? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted July 21 Author Share #10 Posted July 21 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Unfortunately, I don't get a choice to resolve the ambiguities. Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Unfortunately, I don't get a choice to resolve the ambiguities. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/399303-dxo-pureraw-process-dngs-with-profile-that-assumes-in-camera-corrections-or-that-no-corrections-have-been-applied/?do=findComment&comment=5439754'>More sharing options...
jrp Posted August 2 Author Share #11 Posted August 2 OK, so found how to select profiles, but have not idea whether the in-camera-corrected option of vanilla one is what I should be choosing. Does anyone else? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/399303-dxo-pureraw-process-dngs-with-profile-that-assumes-in-camera-corrections-or-that-no-corrections-have-been-applied/?do=findComment&comment=5459875'>More sharing options...
Leicalook Posted August 25 Share #12 Posted August 25 @jrp Same situation here regarding my SL3 with Vario-Elmarit-SL 1:2.8/24–70 ASPH. I am looking for help / an answer as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted August 25 Author Share #13 Posted August 25 I tried raising a help. I think that the feature is supposed to help distinguish files that have had corrections applied by Lightroom before being handed off, from raw RAWs. The answers I got went around in circles, reaching no conclusions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicalook Posted August 25 Share #14 Posted August 25 (edited) @jrp I am not quite sure if I am closer to the solution... I have read the manual, still reading it, and it could be related to the (German word, sorry): Perspektivenkorrektur. Maybe you can check that? There is a complete chapter in the manual regarding this. If the manual is not available for you, I can provide a link to the pdf... Edit: Perspective control, page number 170. Edited August 25 by Leicalook Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted August 26 Author Share #15 Posted August 26 I don’t see anything relevant in the section on perspective correction or on p 170 of the (v6) pdf of the manual. The v7 manual is not available as a pdf. DXO labs should just read the metadata in the raw file to determine the right lens profile to use, but doesn’t seem to do so correctly in the latest builds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marchyman Posted August 26 Share #16 Posted August 26 I know nothing about DXO. With that caveat.... The M11 writes detailed camera perspective metadata even when turned "off" (meaning not automatically applied to any created jpeg image). Metadata fields include "Apply Automatically", "Correction Already Applied", "Pitch Angle", "Roll Angle", etc. When "Applied Automatically" is False Lightroom ignores the data. But... I can go to the Transform pane and hit the "Guided" button to tell Lightroom to apply the corrections. Toggling the button toggles the application of the corrections. I like this as some images are better with corrections applied and others are better with them off. For the type of shooting I do deciding to use the corrections on an image by image basis is the correct thing to do. Can DXO do something similar? I would not like always (or never) applying corrections. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicalook Posted August 27 Share #17 Posted August 27 On 8/26/2024 at 11:37 AM, jrp said: I don’t see anything relevant in the section on perspective correction or on p 170 of the (v6) pdf of the manual. The v7 manual is not available as a pdf. DXO labs should just read the metadata in the raw file to determine the right lens profile to use, but doesn’t seem to do so correctly in the latest builds. @jrp I thought it might be helpful. Sorry if not. Please find attached the page 170. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/399303-dxo-pureraw-process-dngs-with-profile-that-assumes-in-camera-corrections-or-that-no-corrections-have-been-applied/?do=findComment&comment=5506060'>More sharing options...
jrp Posted August 30 Author Share #18 Posted August 30 Ok, so the DNGs have no corrections applied. So I should just use RAW, and not RAW with in-camera correction. Not sure why DXO can’t determine that from the metadata. It used to be able to. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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