AceVentura1986 Posted September 17 Share #61 Posted September 17 Advertisement (gone after registration) 15 hours ago, Luke_Miller said: Do the Leica stores carry a lot of Leica repair parts? Or do they special order them as requested? Don’t know, but I also don’t think batteries are “repair parts” anymore than lens caps are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Al Brown Posted September 17 Share #62 Posted September 17 (edited) 34 minutes ago, AceVentura1986 said: I don’t think this is all FUD because batteries seem to be unavailable anywhere for the M9, M240, and M10 platforms. Why would you say the batteries are unavailable everywhere? USA is not everywhere, it is less than 5% of the entire world. It took me not even 10 minutes to find 3 random stores all around the globe where M240 and M10 batteries are in stock, I have pasted all IN STOCK screenshots for BP-SCL 5 (it is on topic after all): Austria/Germany, Singapore, New Zealand. There are MANY more stores and shops where these batteries are available. My opinion is - there is just a temporary shortage stateside. M8/M9 batteries are NOT an issue, they are abundantly available by third parties/aftermarket. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited September 17 by Al Brown 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/391737-m10-batterieswhat-the-hell/?do=findComment&comment=5615138'>More sharing options...
Luke_Miller Posted September 17 Share #63 Posted September 17 2 hours ago, AceVentura1986 said: Don’t know, but I also don’t think batteries are “repair parts” anymore than lens caps are. I don't either, but it appears with the M240 batteries that is how Leica is treating them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenSea Posted September 18 Share #64 Posted September 18 On 9/16/2024 at 12:07 PM, Al Brown said: Leica is the only camera manufacturer that still repairs all of their old cameras (the oldest will be 100 years old soon) so I sincerely doubt they will let so many users hanging by discontinuing the BP-SCL 5 batteries. They still sell M240 batteries, so why would they do this? My M10-R (which is still being sold in some parts) must be supported for at least 5 years so we are generally good for a while, I would say 5 years for sure. But i know they dont fix light meters in the Leica M6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brown Posted September 18 Share #65 Posted September 18 5 hours ago, KenSea said: But i know they dont fix light meters in the Leica M6. Yes and electronics in M7 and some other delicate things, but the percentage is minor in the aspect the rest of their other hundreds of cameras they do fix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceVentura1986 Posted September 18 Share #66 Posted September 18 23 hours ago, Al Brown said: Why would you say the batteries are unavailable everywhere? USA is not everywhere, it is less than 5% of the entire world. It took me not even 10 minutes to find 3 random stores all around the globe where M240 and M10 batteries are in stock, I have pasted all IN STOCK screenshots for BP-SCL 5 (it is on topic after all): Austria/Germany, Singapore, New Zealand. There are MANY more stores and shops where these batteries are available. My opinion is - there is just a temporary shortage stateside. M8/M9 batteries are NOT an issue, they are abundantly available by third parties/aftermarket. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! That is both very interesting and very weird that they would be unavailable in the US for six months but available elsewhere. I take your point that the US is only 5% of world’s population but it is also 25% of the world’s economy. My guess is that it also represents about 25% of Leica’s worldwide sales, if not higher. That these products would be available elsewhere but unavailable in US for so long is extremely odd. FWIW, I expanded my search and found they’re still back ordered in BH, Adorama, Popflash Photo, and Crutchfield’s but I did find them available in New Zealand. Also, the price is interesting as well you’ve listed. Using a rough one to one conversion of euros to dollars (yes, I know it’s not exactly one to one) then this battery is listed for $165, roughly what I paid for it in December but $35 less than it is listed in the US. Anyway, I still find it concerning that these batteries have been unavailable in the US market for six months or so and that there’s been no mention of this by Leica at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted September 18 Share #67 Posted September 18 Advertisement (gone after registration) 3 minutes ago, AceVentura1986 said: My guess is that it also represents about 25% of Leica’s worldwide sales really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brown Posted September 18 Share #68 Posted September 18 4 minutes ago, AceVentura1986 said: Anyway, I still find it concerning that these batteries have been unavailable in the US market for six months or so and that there’s been no mention of this by Leica at all. Remember how long buyers in the US have waited for APO 35... No word about that from Leica either, nor about their M6 and MPs scratching film or freezing M11s (until FW update recently). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFo Posted September 18 Share #69 Posted September 18 33 minutes ago, AceVentura1986 said: That is both very interesting and very weird that they would be unavailable in the US for six months but available elsewhere. I take your point that the US is only 5% of world’s population but it is also 25% of the world’s economy. My guess is that it also represents about 25% of Leica’s worldwide sales, if not higher. That these products would be available elsewhere but unavailable in US for so long is extremely odd. FWIW, I expanded my search and found they’re still back ordered in BH, Adorama, Popflash Photo, and Crutchfield’s but I did find them available in New Zealand. Also, the price is interesting as well you’ve listed. Using a rough one to one conversion of euros to dollars (yes, I know it’s not exactly one to one) then this battery is listed for $165, roughly what I paid for it in December but $35 less than it is listed in the US. Anyway, I still find it concerning that these batteries have been unavailable in the US market for six months or so and that there’s been no mention of this by Leica at all. Wouldn't surprise if it were a higher proportion. At one point in time 80% of the Porsches made were sold in the US. Similar things but not the same: luxury goods. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted September 18 Share #70 Posted September 18 FYI the Hong Kong Meteor listing is wrong - it's out of stock. I would presume that most of any international listings aren't actually in stock, even if they say so. This is very disconcerting. Leica either need to step up, or release the proprietary info so a third party mfg can step in. I have three between my two bodies, but sure would like a couple more for future proofing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted September 18 Share #71 Posted September 18 I can't seem to get any of these supposedly in stock M10 batteries in New Zealand to actually ship outside of NZ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brown Posted September 18 Share #72 Posted September 18 9 minutes ago, charlesphoto99 said: FYI the Hong Kong Meteor listing is wrong - it's out of stock. I would presume that most of any international listings aren't actually in stock, even if they say so. This is very disconcerting. Leica either need to step up, or release the proprietary info so a third party mfg can step in. I have three between my two bodies, but sure would like a couple more for future proofing. It said last pieces and it must be sold out. I can personally vouch for two European stores because I ordered batteries from them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted September 18 Share #73 Posted September 18 7 minutes ago, charlesphoto99 said: I can't seem to get any of these supposedly in stock M10 batteries in New Zealand to actually ship outside of NZ. It's fairly common for shippers to refuse to handle international sales of batteries (for / from 'Dealerships' & 'Members of the Public') as there is a risk of explosion. The risk might be small but it is still too great a risk for them to even consider taking. Manufacturers, it seems, must have different means to get their items distributed around the planet. Philip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted September 18 Share #74 Posted September 18 15 minutes ago, Al Brown said: It said last pieces and it must be sold out. I can personally vouch for two European stores because I ordered batteries from them. I just went through 11 pages of results for BP-SCL5, and nothing in stock, or won't ship internationally due to it being a lithium ion battery - even if they actually have in stock - I think some retail software doesn't always update as it should. I've found a couple of used ones (more expensive than a new) so will go for one of those for now, with fingers crossed Leica will do the right thing and make more. Guess I should have stocked up years ago when they were 'only' $150. (note, one can't just glance at Google results without clicking through to the actual store - sometimes the Google list will say in stock, but when going to the store it will then say backordered or some such thing). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted September 18 Share #75 Posted September 18 FYI there's one more used (exc+) one available at KEH for $206. I didn't want to say anything until I bought the other that was available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newtoleica Posted September 18 Share #76 Posted September 18 Leica store UK says available on their website. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted September 18 Share #77 Posted September 18 3 hours ago, newtoleica said: Leica store UK says available on their website. That's good to know if you're in the UK. Expensive plane ticket for a battery if not (but always a lovely place to visit). But they're prohibited from mailing overseas, same with Leica store Hong Kong, which also says in stock. There's currently a used one on auction on eBay from Popflash in the US, with 39 watchers. The last used one from him sold at auction for $420, and they regularly go for $300 and up on eBay. What is Leica's problem??? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newtoleica Posted September 18 Share #78 Posted September 18 2 minutes ago, charlesphoto99 said: The last used one from him sold at auction for $420, and they regularly go for $300 and up on eBay. 😳😳😳😳😳😳😳 no more than $100 here…… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted September 18 Share #79 Posted September 18 Yeah, now that I look specifically EU, it doesn't seem to be a problem finding them, new or used at reasonable price. Nobody will ship them is all. My wife and kids will be in Dusseldorf over the holidays, so I guess I know what I'll be getting for Xmas (if still in stock - may have her pre-order and deliver to her sister's). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikep996 Posted September 19 Share #80 Posted September 19 If they can't ship the batteries internationally, how do the batteries get anywhere? I'm sure there aren't Leica-compatible battery makers in every country. 🤔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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