John Miranda Posted March 30 Share #21 Posted March 30 Advertisement (gone after registration) What is all this about electronics being eWaste after 10 years? My Apple II+ goes strong and it is from 1979... as does my HP41CX calculator from 1986. TI-59 calculators from 1977 can now gain new life with rebuilt battery packs... Hopefully the Leica's will also. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/391737-m10-batterieswhat-the-hell/?do=findComment&comment=5144136'>More sharing options...
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andybarton Posted March 30 Share #22 Posted March 30 1 hour ago, letitz said: Sorry I'm confused. How can you buy a camera last year and then have it sitting for years? It was on the dealer’s shelf for years? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
overexposed Posted March 30 Share #23 Posted March 30 24 minutes ago, andybarton said: It was on the dealer’s shelf for years? Thats it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01maciel Posted March 30 Share #24 Posted March 30 vor 7 Stunden schrieb John Miranda: as does my HP41CX calculator from 1986 Now a wonderful technical museum artifact. Who still knows the Reverse Polish notation today? I've just taken mine out of the drawer again. I should dust it off again. And, of course, batteries are still available. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/391737-m10-batterieswhat-the-hell/?do=findComment&comment=5144500'>More sharing options...
Anbaric Posted March 30 Share #25 Posted March 30 20 hours ago, andybarton said: There are people who can rebuild DMR batteries if/when they die. The batteries that is, not the technicians offering a posthumous battery service. I wonder if even these ghostly technicians will be able to rebuild M10 batteries? The DMR batteries probably didn't have an authentication chip, but the M10 batteries might. If there is a chip, maybe you can transfer it to a rebuilt battery, but maybe not. It's reassuring when a battery is widely cloned by third parties. The NP-95 for my X100T is no longer made by Fuji, but it's easy to find high quality replacements. Maybe there needs to be some sort of consumer legislation like the EU has for USB-C phone chargers, mandating a set of open generic standards for batteries and requiring all devices sold to be compatible with one of them. There's no need for every company to come up with its own proprietary standard that may be discarded a few years later. You could probably cover everything from a pocket P&S to a pro mirrorless or dSLR with maybe 4 sizes. Or at least ban authentication chips for batteries as anti-competitive (and do the same for printer cartridges while they're at it). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimesmaybe Posted March 30 Share #26 Posted March 30 On 3/28/2024 at 11:01 AM, jdlaing said: I still use digital cameras from 20 years ago. Magically they still function as the did when new. i got a used canon 1 Ds mk2 for USD300 earlier this year. this was one of the early 'full frame' digital cameras from around 20 yrs ago. it was a pain but i did manage to find a 3rd party selling a compatible nickel battery! i took this warhorse on a shoot yesterday, im really surprised how good the image looks for such vintage tech Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/391737-m10-batterieswhat-the-hell/?do=findComment&comment=5144630'>More sharing options...
sinjun Posted March 30 Share #27 Posted March 30 Advertisement (gone after registration) And I've still got the original version of the Canon 1DS I bought 21 years ago. It's quite easy to get decent batteries on Amazon and the camera works as well as ever. It doesn't get many outings these days but I use it especially if I need to do macro. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted March 30 Share #28 Posted March 30 On 3/27/2024 at 6:23 PM, 01maciel said: Don't worry, after 10 years at the latest, all electronic devices, whether cameras, laptops or smartphones, are e-waste 🗑️ After 12 months in some cases e.g. iPhones 😀. Then there are the people who were early adopters of EVs who find that nobody wants their 'short range' vehicles. We have all bought into the whole dastardly plan, buying convenience in exchange for planned obsolescence. When was the last time anyone here had their electric kettle repaired? Then there is the manipulation of customers through firmware and software upgrades, where you cannot do certain things or access particular services if you don't have a 'current' OS on your computer. Adam Smith 1723-1790 said it all a long time ago “People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices.” William 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Miranda Posted March 31 Share #29 Posted March 31 21 hours ago, 01maciel said: Now a wonderful technical museum artifact. Who still knows the Reverse Polish notation today? I've just taken mine out of the drawer again. I should dust it off again. And, of course, batteries are still available. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Excellent calculator, mine is on my desk, I use it often. Power it up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasG Posted March 31 Share #30 Posted March 31 Am 30.3.2024 um 08:59 schrieb 01maciel: Who still knows the Reverse Polish notation today? You are not alone. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/391737-m10-batterieswhat-the-hell/?do=findComment&comment=5145794'>More sharing options...
KFo Posted March 31 Share #31 Posted March 31 OMG, HP calculators! Still have a couple. Picked up a 15C re-issue back while I was still working, used it all the time although I preferred the 35S mostly. RPN is the Leica M of calculators; only for those that know how to use it or are willing to learn. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01maciel Posted March 31 Share #32 Posted March 31 😳 Stunning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01maciel Posted March 31 Share #33 Posted March 31 vor 57 Minuten schrieb AndreasG: You are not alone. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 😳 Stunning 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasG Posted March 31 Share #34 Posted March 31 vor einer Stunde schrieb KFo: OMG, HP calculators! Still have a couple. Picked up a 15C re-issue back while I was still working, used it all the time although I preferred the 35S mostly. RPN is the Leica M of calculators; only for those that know how to use it or are willing to learn. A little OT: You should know, the best dealer for HP calculators, used ones and new is in your neighbourhood: https://www.thecalculatorstore.com/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01maciel Posted March 31 Share #35 Posted March 31 I wouldn't be surprised if there was a correlation between the former use of HP calculators with RPN and Leica users. Even back then, my fellow students didn't understand why I was using what they thought was a strange device instead of a proper calculator. Today it's exactly the same, only with my Leica. 😂 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 31 Share #36 Posted March 31 On 3/30/2024 at 6:59 PM, 01maciel said: Who still knows the Reverse Polish notation today? 32S (at home) and 35S (in office) in frequent use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Richardson Posted March 31 Share #37 Posted March 31 I still have my dad's at my studio. He taught me how to use it when I was about six or seven I think. I think he was hoping I might be a businessman. He could never anticipate the terror that awaited...an artist. I still run a small business, but the 12C is most useful for holding prints down so they don't curl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbaric Posted March 31 Share #38 Posted March 31 No love for Casio? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksrhee Posted March 31 Share #39 Posted March 31 5 hours ago, KFo said: OMG, HP calculators! Still have a couple. Picked up a 15C re-issue back while I was still working, used it all the time although I preferred the 35S mostly. RPN is the Leica M of calculators; only for those that know how to use it or are willing to learn. Yes, an apt comparison. Bring back memories. Yes, HP calculators were more expensive than other calculators, and you had to learn the RPN notation, which I still think is superior--Just like the Leica RF's. I went against the trend when I bought the HP calculators (both scientific and financial), and I'm going against the trend by buying M's (manual focus and RF window finders). When the camera manufacturers came out with the autofocus, I thought it was the worst invention they had ever made (I still think so). Besides, life will be too boring if you are only following the crowd! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01maciel Posted March 31 Share #40 Posted March 31 vor 3 Stunden schrieb ksrhee: Besides, life will be too boring if you are only following the crowd! When you run after the herd, you only see their butts 🐑 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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