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22 hours ago, lct said:

Sharpies are not dark enough in my experience. Better use them to mark coding dots in the first place, then remove the template and apply black paint or black ink over the marks to avoid false code readings.

After recent experience fully agree.  I feel "Sharpie" is used liberally as generic marker pen without concern for the suitability for job in hand.

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8 hours ago, Rollei35 said:

Can Shapie's mark on metal even stay?

I tried and it can be easily wiped off even days later.

You are absolutely correct, it will wipe off.  When marking my Voigtlander lenses, I was looking for something dark enough for the sensor to respond to.  The Sharpie in the picture worked in that respect but it isn't a permanent fix and will need to be marked again.  Luckily the groove around the VC lens offers some protection from wiping the marks away during normal use.  I tried marking a Summicron and the marks were smeared a bit from just attaching and removing the lens.  So I'm still looking for a better solution, dark enough and better adhesion to metal.  Perhaps something similar to automobile touchup paint?  I have one of those with a tiny brush on one end and a pin point applicator on the other...but I don't think the red color would be appropriate.

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50 minutes ago, Siriusone59 said:

I tried marking a Summicron and the marks were smeared a bit from just attaching and removing the lens.  So I'm still looking for a better solution, dark enough and better adhesion to metal.  Perhaps something similar to automobile touchup paint?

Black ink works fine on all my VM and ZM lenses. See link below. I apply it directly on sharpie marks after removing the template. Same on lenses and adapters having unpaint coding pits already but not on legacy Leica lenses having no recessed parts in their flange, due to smearing issues.

https://markal.com/products/dura-ink-5

 

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8 hours ago, lct said:

Black ink works fine on all my VM and ZM lenses. See link below. I apply it directly on sharpie marks after removing the template. Same on lenses and adapters having unpaint coding pits already but not on legacy Leica lenses having no recessed parts in their flange, due to smearing issues.

https://markal.com/products/dura-ink-5

 

Thank you for the tip on the Markal Dura-ink needle nose pen.  I found one locally at a TSC store.  Only $4.99, I tested it on stainless after I returned home.  It is much more smear resistant than either of the Sharpie products I had used earlier.

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I found the akaralab coder on ebay and ordered it. Got it and used it along with an Edding 780 paint marker for my VN and Leica lenses. Everything worked so well that I ordered a spare. The only issue I had was not waiting either long enough for the paint to dry or applying too much on my MATE as it rubbed off. Easy enough to reapply. Be careful using the Edding as a little goes a long ways.

 

 

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I have just marked my 24 Elmarit-M using the "Uni Super Ink Marker", and it works really well. I used a 3D printer guide given to me by a friend and it was very easy - once you have the right pen, with a suitable tip.

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