tpenate2 Posted November 17, 2007 Share #141 Â Posted November 17, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Sean, I agree with all three changes. I own an M8. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 17, 2007 Posted November 17, 2007 Hi tpenate2, Take a look here Survey of Interest: Faster Adjustments for ISO, EV and WB. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
toyfel Posted November 17, 2007 Share #142  Posted November 17, 2007 current M8 owner  YES to Sean´s suggestion! Leica, please give us faster access to ISO, EVcomp and WB functions! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevez4 Posted November 17, 2007 Share #143 Â Posted November 17, 2007 No to one and two .. And a resounding yes to better AWB, but to corrected AWB not speed. AWB may be of far more importance to the large majority of users, but not to the beta testers. So I assume better AWB is a lost cause, as is the loud shutter release issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
voightL Posted November 17, 2007 Share #144 Â Posted November 17, 2007 Yes to Sean's suggestions. Great ideas, Sean. M8 & new Leica user since May 2007. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted November 17, 2007 Share #145 Â Posted November 17, 2007 I support all of Sean's proposal but WB is less important to me. Â M8 owner since Feb 07. Â Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perspectics Posted November 17, 2007 Share #146 Â Posted November 17, 2007 All amendments much appreciated. M8 owner since Sep 07. Cheers, Claus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realphotos Posted November 17, 2007 Share #147 Â Posted November 17, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1) M8 owner since Nov 06. 2) Yes to Seans suggestions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Marks Posted November 17, 2007 Share #148 Â Posted November 17, 2007 Great ideas, particularly rapid access to exposure compensation. Â Ben Marks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchell Posted November 17, 2007 Share #149 Â Posted November 17, 2007 I would love to see quick ISO, and EV change. (The DMR is wonderful for EV.) Don't care as much about White Balance. Â M8 owner since 11/06. Â Best, Â Mitchell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay101 Posted November 17, 2007 Share #150 Â Posted November 17, 2007 Yes to all three, WB included (my pro cameras make WB changes easy, fast - and accurate. This one should too) Â Great work Sean - appreciate it. Â Jay (Owner of M8) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJP Posted November 17, 2007 Share #151 Â Posted November 17, 2007 If you diasagree you just state No, Yes ,No (or whatever the case may be) + M8 owner since XXXX Â the new and improved ideas you have can be posted and linked to in a new thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodyspedden Posted November 17, 2007 Share #152  Posted November 17, 2007 Sorry I am so late to the party but yes, YES to all of these features. They would be so utterly practical for the serious shooter  Woody Spedden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giordano Posted November 17, 2007 Share #153 Â Posted November 17, 2007 I. Eliminate the necessity of pressing the "set" button once a given ISO, EV adjustment, etc. is selected. Instead, one should be able to confirm a setting by *either* pressing the "set" button *or* by lightly depressing the shutter button to return to photographing. Most pros working quickly will likely want to do the latter. Â II. The photographer should also be allowed to optionally assign the "protect" button to a more useful function. Very few working photographers have the time to individually protect pictures on an SD card. In six years of working professionally with digital capture, I haven't once used the "protect" button on any camera. Instead, allow the photographer to *optionally* assign one of three setting functions to that button if he or she chooses. He or she could choose to assign that "protect" button so that it directly controls ISO, EV Compensation or White Balance. Again, once the selection is made, it could be confirmed by lightly pressing the shutter button. Â III. The arrow keys on the control wheel could also be used to provided direct access for at least two digital settings. My thoughts: Â A. When the LCD display is off, pressing the left arrow key could bring up the EV compensation menu. Â B. When the LCD display is off, pressing the right arrow key could bring up the ISO menu. Â With either A or B, the value itself would then be selected using the up/down arrow keys and then the selection could be confirmed simply by lightly pressing the shutter release. Â I. No thank you. This would mean that touching the shutter release would confirm some settings and cancel others. I think that's bad UI design; I know it would give me problems. Â II. Yes please, provided Protect still protects when in Play mode. The M8 is the only camera I've ever used the Protect button on, because it's the only camera I've used where a single button press can delete an image. Â III. Only if it's optional (can be disabled by a menu option). These are the buttons I'm most likely to press by accident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted November 18, 2007 Author Share #154 Â Posted November 18, 2007 We got off track for a bit but we can be back on. Â Again, what I need to know is whether or not you (the reader) are interested in seeing these changes implemented. This is a survey. To discuss pros and cons, propose alternatives, etc. please use the "Alernatives" thread. Â Those of you who do support the changes, however, please do post and please note whether you are a current or a prospective M8 owner. Again, those who don't like them can drop by the other thread. Â Please pass the word to other M8 owners. Â Thanks, Â Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted November 18, 2007 Author Share #155 Â Posted November 18, 2007 Andy Barton is out but he'll sort out the off-topic posts by tomorrow. Â If anyone else would like to respond to this survey and help move things forward, please do. Try to ignore the attempts to derail it for now and don't forget the magic of the "ignore" button. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted November 18, 2007 Author Share #156 Â Posted November 18, 2007 Well folks, it looks like this survey has gone quiet. I'll include the responses in my discussions with Leica. Mark Norton, as he explained in another thread, will do his best (in several languages) to convince Leica not to make these changes. We'll see what happens but what a strange world this is where people operate with such diverse purposes. Â By all means, however, if anyone else wants to answer the survey, feel free. Â Cheers, Â Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJones Posted November 18, 2007 Share #157 Â Posted November 18, 2007 Regardless of the specifics, in just 2 days this Survey makes it obviously clear we have strong, strong support for "Faster Adjustments for ISO, EV and WB" on the M8 by reconfiguring certain back panel controls and menu settings and options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted November 18, 2007 Author Share #158 Â Posted November 18, 2007 Regardless of the specifics, in just 2 days this Survey makes it obviously clear we have strong, strong support for "Faster Adjustments for ISO, EV and WB" on the M8 by reconfiguring certain back panel controls and menu settings and options. Â Absolutely. Â Cheers, Â Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted November 18, 2007 Share #159  Posted November 18, 2007 OK, folks, I have had my dinner and been to bed. I have even had my breakfast.  The posts that were "off topic" here, have been moved to this thread.  http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m8-forum/38852-mark-nortons-alternative-evo-compensation-thread.html    Sean  Your PM box is full  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fefe Posted November 18, 2007 Share #160 Â Posted November 18, 2007 M8 owner. yes to quick ISO adjustment, the rest I can live without. I actually would prefer the ability to use the 4 arrows when the screen is black to set automatically iso to 160 32 640 and 1250 . I think a menu that would let you set what you want on these keys as quick shortcut is the real solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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