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20 hours ago, 250swb said:

There is always an exception 👍

Nah, they got you.  Scratched film is now what Leica does, no need for customer interference.  It's actually what separates Leica from everyone else.  

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1 hour ago, Huss said:

Nah, they got you.  Scratched film is now what Leica does, no need for customer interference.  It's actually what separates Leica from everyone else.  

But there’s always the Leica ethos to buy into. I mean we all like Voigtlander lenses and think of them as a genuine alternative, but we can often get the same Voigtlander lens in an F mount and if you buy a Nikon FE body you’ve got the equivalent of a reliable Leica M7. But it isn’t a Leica, you can’t buy custom half cases for an FE, and as you say you’d miss the misery of scratches and being able to complain about them. So Leica is about more than having a great camera, it’s about not having a boring camera that works.

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53 minutes ago, 250swb said:

But there’s always the Leica ethos to buy into. I mean we all like Voigtlander lenses and think of them as a genuine alternative, but we can often get the same Voigtlander lens in an F mount and if you buy a Nikon FE body you’ve got the equivalent of a reliable Leica M7. But it isn’t a Leica, you can’t buy custom half cases for an FE, and as you say you’d miss the misery of scratches and being able to complain about them. So Leica is about more than having a great camera, it’s about not having a boring camera that works.

Amen to that!  Thank you Leica for making cameras that scratch film instead of boring cameras!

It’s amazing how no other mfg has figured that out.  even $10 disposable cameras don’t scratch film!  My Nikon F6?  What a pile of non film scratching junk!  How is it possible that after all these years only Leica figured out how to do it?

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@theBear, no one has asked another important question.  Was your HP5 in the original purchased cassette, or did you bulk roll your own film?  If your other film cartridges and film types have not exhibited this, then it may not be a light leak from putting a spent cartridge down on a desk.  While I think it very rare, commercial cartridges could also have a bad batch.  

Curious if you have found the culprit?

As an aside, since 1985 I have rewound leaders back into the cartridge without any light leaks from a cartridge - ever.  I do put the used roll of film back in the plastic case, or a bulk case and I don’t leave it sitting around.  However, I also find that it is easier not to double expose a roll of film if the leader is fully rewound.  Just my two cents there.

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6 hours ago, davidmknoble said:

 

As an aside, since 1985 I have rewound leaders back into the cartridge without any light leaks from a cartridge - ever.  I do put the used roll of film back in the plastic case, or a bulk case and I don’t leave it sitting around.  However, I also find that it is easier not to double expose a roll of film if the leader is fully rewound.  Just my two cents there.

same.  Been shooting film since 1984, never a light leak from rewinding all the way back into the cartridge.

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2 minutes ago, rtai said:

I rewind fully and use a leader extractor to retrieve the film for processing. I reuse the empty cartridges a few times for bulk loading and never had this problem.

I don't reuse the cassette but haven't encountered any problems with the felt scratching the film.

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3 minutes ago, madNbad said:

I don't reuse the cassette but haven't encountered any problems with the felt scratching the film.

There was a time when Freestyle.biz sold 100’ cans of Trix and Acros under its Arista brand at a crazy discount. There’s always a risk of something to go wrong with bulk loading. I wasted a whole can because of a used bulk loader with a light leak. 

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I’ve had more than a few snap caps pop open in my pocket. I have a very nice Alden 74 and a box of Kodak snap caps in a drawer but it’s the factory loaded Tri-X in the refrigerator I use.

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On 7/23/2023 at 11:58 AM, rtai said:

There was a time when Freestyle.biz sold 100’ cans of Trix and Acros under its Arista brand at a crazy discount. There’s always a risk of something to go wrong with bulk loading. I wasted a whole can because of a used bulk loader with a light leak. 

Freestyle used to sell Trix under their Arista label for something like $3/36 exp!

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Hello.   Going back to the initial question.   I have the same with HP5+    Has this issue been solved?   I bought it at a very attractive price, so it make me worry about a batch error.

Thanjs

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5 hours ago, HansVL said:

Hello.   Going back to the initial question.   I have the same with HP5+    Has this issue been solved?   I bought it at a very attractive price, so it make me worry about a batch error.

Thanjs

Welcome to the Forum.

What makes you think the discussion came down on the side of it being a film problem? 99% of the discussion was about user error in allowing light to leak into the cassette, and it was only on the first few frames which can be wasted anyway depending on how careless you are loading the film. But a lot of film problems can look similar and you may be experiencing something else. If you can post a picture of the streaks on the film (including the edges and sprocket holes) and say what camera it is somebody may be able to help.

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In all my years of shooting film I've never had issues with light leaks from the film cassette either with or without the leader sticking out. Nor have I ever had a 'bad batch' of film.

The problem here is almost certainly to do with how the film was handled/developed.

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