pippy Posted August 12, 2023 Share #41 Posted August 12, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, Multicoated said: I don’t use lens hoods unfortunately 😢 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Aahhhh; that's rather interesting! It would appear that LLL re-engineered the formula of the paint used for the V6 batch as opposed for that used on the V2 release! Oddly enough 'red paint-colour' is something which Ken Rockwell mentions in his review of the 2008-on Voigtlander 28mm f2 Ultron review; "...The red numbers are almost invisible. I shoot my product shots with boosted saturation that makes these red numbers more easy to read here than they actually are; this is how the red numbers and mounting dot really look under most light..." Philip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 12, 2023 Posted August 12, 2023 Hi pippy, Take a look here Voigtlander 35mm 1.4 Nokton Classic v2 - “less modern” rendering?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
hansvons Posted August 12, 2023 Share #42 Posted August 12, 2023 25 minutes ago, Multicoated said: I see they’ve been through a lot with that CHINA on their lens. I like that—kind of a revitalised made in Germany approach. Marking German products with that badge was imposed on Germany by the Allies after the war to deter potential buyers. That backfired. Although heavily discussed as a likely/real bad actor or bad-mouthed for making cheap products, there are great artisan shops in China that produce gems. Why not help then your country's reputation by displaying China upfront? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted August 13, 2023 Share #43 Posted August 13, 2023 The silver-on-brass one is the "25th Anniversary" Map Camera edition limited to 250 copies and issued in Aug 2019. It is indeed optically a v1 - although I remember reading unsubstantiated claims that it was "improved". Seems like it's only available used these days, hence the collector's prices... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69xchange Posted August 13, 2023 Share #44 Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) Someone is selling this locally. This is not the MAP edition because it’s the v2.. does the v2 even come in silver?? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited August 13, 2023 by 69xchange Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/374888-voigtlander-35mm-14-nokton-classic-v2-%E2%80%9Cless-modern%E2%80%9D-rendering/?do=findComment&comment=4834422'>More sharing options...
69xchange Posted August 13, 2023 Share #45 Posted August 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, Multicoated said: Only comes in black. This may be a repaint. Definitely not the MAP camera edition. That’s what I thought as well. The seller is asking 900 usd for this lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted August 13, 2023 Share #46 Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) Pity the Map Edition was only MC... Although TBH there's little difference between SC and MC - at least on the v1. I have no experience with the v2, other than returning an MC copy because I preferred the v1's rendering in B&W, which is what I'd mostly use these CV lenses for. Perhaps I should have tried a v2 SC... Edited August 13, 2023 by Ecar 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Life By Stills Posted August 13, 2023 Share #47 Posted August 13, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 8/10/2023 at 2:57 AM, shirubadanieru said: Given my disappointment with the SR remake and still wanting a small f1.4 lens, I bought the Nokton VII MC and took it with me to Hong Kong. I was really impressed with its rendering!! reading the reviews online you'd think this lens is super soft, but not at all. Actually, it's much sharper than the Lux pre-asph, without being too sharp / clinical like some modern lenses. Loving the lens so far, heptics wise is very similar to the lux pre asph, and price wise makes it a great lens to carry anywhere without any worries. Should have bought this lens earlier. Some pics below shot between f1.4〜f2.8 on cinestill. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Darn, loving these shots, @shirubadanieru. Hong Kong is such a photogenic city! Miss the place! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted August 15, 2023 Share #48 Posted August 15, 2023 On 8/14/2023 at 6:59 AM, Multicoated said: Okay. I’m at the official Voigtlander dealer. Saying goodbye to the 28 and hello to the 35 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I didn’t bring the camera so I’m on my way home now. But I didn’t realize how small the 35f1.4 really is. Very nice. I’ll post more later. 1) With my 28 (2 years old now out of warranty) for trade 2) B+W filter (I don’t use them but I’ll need them on my beach trips) 3) Hood included LH-6 4) 35f1.4 Nokton II SC Total cost = $260 bucks brand new. edit: home now. Yea. This thing is tiny! I see the focus throw is longer than my 50 Cron so I have to get used to it. Also I need to use it a bit to get the grease going so it smooths out a bit more. But right out of the box it feels tight as a drum and you can be very accurate with the focus. You’ll love it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted August 15, 2023 Share #49 Posted August 15, 2023 (edited) On 8/13/2023 at 9:36 PM, Multicoated said: As far as I can see, and the reason I’m choosing the sc version, is the photos have more of a yellow hue to them. Sort of like the glass......but......correct me if I’m wrong. OK; you are wrong. The 'yellow coating' will, in fact, filter out some yellow; not give your photographs a yellow hue. Whilst filters transmit their colour wavelengths; coatings reflect them. But don't despair! The amount of this reflected 'colour-loss' is only in the region of 4% (*) so absolutely no reason not to allow Aesthetics to win-out anyhow. Congrats on your choice of lens, though, as it is absolutely superb. Philip. * Variable... Edited August 15, 2023 by pippy 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 15, 2023 Share #50 Posted August 15, 2023 Not sure what you mean by yellow hue. Yellow cast? I don't think my pics suffer from that. Yellows are well rendered though. M11 + Nokton 35/1.4 SC v2@ f/1.4. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/374888-voigtlander-35mm-14-nokton-classic-v2-%E2%80%9Cless-modern%E2%80%9D-rendering/?do=findComment&comment=4836191'>More sharing options...
Kreeshp Posted September 11, 2023 Share #51 Posted September 11, 2023 35mm is my favorite focal length and I already own several versions of the Summicron but I'd never owned a 35mm Summilux because I'm put off by their larger form factor. Leica lenses to me should be small and nimble. Soon after I received my copy of the 35mm APO-Summicron-M late in 2022, I quickly understood why others had sold their copies, often citing that they preferred lenses with more character. I've always preferred modern renderings but I must be maturing in my Leica user experience, as I now find that I like both the modern and the vintage/classic renderings. Enter the steel rim reissue. When my dealer finally emailed to let me know my copy had arrived in June, a few months ago, I'd actually forgotten that I had put myself on the wait list for that lens. The lens hood fiasco had *just* resolved a week or two prior (when Leica relaunched a re-designed lens hood that no longer vignettes when used with a filter) and I started furiously researching whether I really wanted to buy the steel rim reissue. After a week of soul searching, I decided that the 1.0 meter minimum focus distance was a deal breaker. I knew it was too limiting. I sadly told the dealer I was going to pass on the steel rim reissue and quietly gave up on the idea of owning a classic rendering 35mm lens. Until I read this thread. When I learned about the Voigtlander Nokton Classic 35mm f1.4 Map Camera edition, I knew I had to try one because I really wanted a silver/brass version of this lens for both my Safari M10-P and my black paint MP - digital and film use. I began learning about the V1 vs V2, SC vs MC options and tried to read everything I could find about the pros and cons of the various versions. Meanwhile, I went into deep-dive+search mode for a copy of the Map Camera edition to buy. Recently, I took delivery of a Voigtlander Nokton Classic 35mm f1.4 MC Map Camera lens from none other than Map Camera in Japan itself. This one appeared to have had limited, and possibly, no use. It came with the original packaging and lens hood - all in absolutely pristine condition with zero blemishes on the barrel or glass or lens hood. It truly looked like no one had touched it since its launch four years ago. Like esteemed member, @Steven, has reported, the ergonomics/haptics of this lens are incredible. It has a pleasing heft to it and feels very solid, and it handles as well as any of my genuine Leica lenses and feels well made. Optically, I tested it with a tape measure to check for focus shifting and my copy seems to not exhibit any noticeable front or back focus issues between f2.8 and f5.6 within about 20 feet, unlike what's been widely reported with the black V1's of this lens. I'm a firm believer that there's a lot of sample variation with this model of Voigtlander lens and I think I may have genuinely lucked out. Others have suggested the tighter tolerances of the brass version may contribute to better optical performance. Whatever the reason, I'm thrilled with my first and possibly only Voigtlander lens. (As an aside, there's definitely more barrel distortion with this lens than my 35mm APO but that's an acceptable trade off for a lens that renders very much like the steel rim reissue, and even looks like it, at less than half the cost of the steel rim reissue - with a 0.7 meter minimum focus distance.) I'm so glad I didn't listen to all the online bashing that all the V1's are crap because they focus shift and have terrible barrel distortion and I'm thrilled that I have a 0.7 meter focussing, classic rendering antithesis to my 35mm APO. To others in search of this amazing lens, good luck and post when you're part of the club of 250! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/374888-voigtlander-35mm-14-nokton-classic-v2-%E2%80%9Cless-modern%E2%80%9D-rendering/?do=findComment&comment=4854655'>More sharing options...
oolong5 Posted October 15, 2023 Share #52 Posted October 15, 2023 Hey guys, amazing thread here. I'm also proud to be 1/250. Re the v1/v2 question, the v2 was introduced in June 2019, so logically the September released MAP version should be the latest design right? source:https://www.dpreview.com/news/3646865632/voigtlander-nokton-classic-35mm-f1-4-ii-lens-for-leica-m-mount-will-be-released-in-june Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted October 17, 2023 Share #53 Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) On 10/15/2023 at 4:57 PM, oolong5 said: Hey guys, amazing thread here. I'm also proud to be 1/250. Re the v1/v2 question, the v2 was introduced in June 2019, so logically the September released MAP version should be the latest design right? source:https://www.dpreview.com/news/3646865632/voigtlander-nokton-classic-35mm-f1-4-ii-lens-for-leica-m-mount-will-be-released-in-june No, the MAP version is optically a v1. Dates are meaningless in this case: Cosina probably started manufacturing brass parts for it before the v2 design was even finalised. Edited October 17, 2023 by Ecar 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted October 27, 2023 Share #54 Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) Motley collections of pumpkins. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 35mm Nokton Classic II SC @ f1.4, M11 Edited October 27, 2023 by Keith (M) 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 35mm Nokton Classic II SC @ f1.4, M11 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/374888-voigtlander-35mm-14-nokton-classic-v2-%E2%80%9Cless-modern%E2%80%9D-rendering/?do=findComment&comment=4883846'>More sharing options...
hansvons Posted November 21, 2023 Share #55 Posted November 21, 2023 Nokon f1,4, SC V2 @ f8.0, APX 400, Xtol. Stopped down, it's a sharp lens with little flaring. Click to enlarge. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/374888-voigtlander-35mm-14-nokton-classic-v2-%E2%80%9Cless-modern%E2%80%9D-rendering/?do=findComment&comment=4917398'>More sharing options...
hansvons Posted November 21, 2023 Share #56 Posted November 21, 2023 Same everything. No smeary edges and sharp corners. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/374888-voigtlander-35mm-14-nokton-classic-v2-%E2%80%9Cless-modern%E2%80%9D-rendering/?do=findComment&comment=4917399'>More sharing options...
hansvons Posted November 21, 2023 Share #57 Posted November 21, 2023 Again the Nokton mounted on an M6 and loaded with APX400. This time shot at f5,6. Corners are still relatively sharp, but the flare pays nicely into the backlit landscape. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/374888-voigtlander-35mm-14-nokton-classic-v2-%E2%80%9Cless-modern%E2%80%9D-rendering/?do=findComment&comment=4917407'>More sharing options...
skilar Posted January 29, 2024 Share #58 Posted January 29, 2024 (edited) Ended up going for the SC and have been loving the dreamy quality of the lens. Would re-buy in a heartbeat. HP5+ at 1600 in DD-X. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 29, 2024 by skilar 7 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/374888-voigtlander-35mm-14-nokton-classic-v2-%E2%80%9Cless-modern%E2%80%9D-rendering/?do=findComment&comment=5012511'>More sharing options...
skilar Posted January 29, 2024 Share #59 Posted January 29, 2024 And it's lovely at night. HP5+ at 1600 in DD-X. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/374888-voigtlander-35mm-14-nokton-classic-v2-%E2%80%9Cless-modern%E2%80%9D-rendering/?do=findComment&comment=5012516'>More sharing options...
hansvons Posted January 30, 2024 Share #60 Posted January 30, 2024 9 hours ago, skilar said: Ended up going for the SC and have been loving the dreamy quality of the lens. Would re-buy in a heartbeat. HP5+ at 1600 in DD-X. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited 9 hours ago by skilar That was shot wide-open, wasn't it? It's interesting how well the HP5 survives the 2-stop push. I guess the exposure was relatively fat. Nice. I hardly shoot the Nokton at full aperture. I find it gets too soft. That, of course, is entirely in the eye of the beholder. But closing half a stop already helps a lot in that regard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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