If you'd need to pick today: 2022 Leica M6 or latest Leica MP (both new)

[Jewl]

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vor 8 Minuten schrieb jpark114:

I'd pick a MP black painted.

I dislike M6's film advance lever and film rewinding knob, and much prefer MP's.

 

However, I'm intrigued by M6's combination of brass and new black paint finish, and I'd love to have one as my additional body

Overall I really like both from a look and feel! I haven't seen and old/classic M6 in real life but at least, as I have the new one here, the body, the black color and feel of the cam is very nice! And I do think the M6 might be more suitable for me as I am always struggling with the outer experience of things in terms of cleanness and condition (scratches etc.) - I might be too careful with the MP as it tends to scratch or lose the paint over time much faster. Even though it is meant to happen, could take some time and mental effort to let go and focus on using the cam instead of caring too much 😄 

But do you think the camera will brass over time? 

[jakontil]

39 minutes ago, Jewl said:

Overall I really like both from a look and feel! I haven't seen and old/classic M6 in real life but at least, as I have the new one here, the body, the black color and feel of the cam is very nice! And I do think the M6 might be more suitable for me as I am always struggling with the outer experience of things in terms of cleanness and condition (scratches etc.) - I might be too careful with the MP as it tends to scratch or lose the paint over time much faster. Even though it is meant to happen, could take some time and mental effort to let go and focus on using the cam instead of caring too much 😄 

But do you think the camera will brass over time? 

Short answer, dont think so unless u intentionally sandpaper it with lots of efforts

from the experience, even a black chrome hardly brassed after some heavy usage

[Huss]

7 hours ago, Jewl said:

Overall I really like both from a look and feel! I haven't seen and old/classic M6 in real life but at least, as I have the new one here, the body, the black color and feel of the cam is very nice! And I do think the M6 might be more suitable for me as I am always struggling with the outer experience of things in terms of cleanness and condition (scratches etc.) - I might be too careful with the MP as it tends to scratch or lose the paint over time much faster. Even though it is meant to happen, could take some time and mental effort to let go and focus on using the cam instead of caring too much 😄 

But do you think the camera will brass over time? 

If you are talking about the BP MP, no matter how careful you are it will brass on the rewind knob and on the film advance lever.  But that's the point!

[lmans]

On 1/25/2023 at 2:33 AM, Ouroboros said:

 

In your case there is a strong possibility the exposure meter is also faulty.

Or in your case, it can be a faulty BATTERY....you know, that thing you have to purchase to stick in the 'opening' in the front of our camera. It unscrews and you put in the BATTERY. I believe that BATTERY helps you figure out the exposure since you can't  figure out exposure without it being done for you. Ha...I remember I had a 1967 Truck that had red lights on the dashboard in case the driver forgot to check the oil and ran low. We called them 'idiot lights'...

Edited January 27 by lmans

[Ouroboros]

1 hour ago, lmans said:

Or in your case, it can be a faulty BATTERY....you know, that thing you have to purchase to stick in the 'opening' in the front of our camera. It unscrews and you put in the BATTERY. I believe that BATTERY helps you figure out the exposure since you can't  figure out exposure without it being done for you. Ha...I remember I had a 1967 Truck that had red lights on the dashboard in case the driver forgot to check the oil and ran low. We called them 'idiot lights'...

Those red lights on the dashboard must have been invaluable for you.

[lmans]

30 minutes ago, Ouroboros said:

Those red lights on the dashboard must have been invaluable for you.

With a 67 Ford…. They are always needed:) Unlike my MA:) 

[Huss]

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The BP MP feels warmer and grippier in hand compared to the new M6 - both in front of me.

[logan2z]

I think I'm going to change my answer to 'neither', if I had to choose today.  At least not until Leica can demonstrate that they can consistently deliver a new film camera that actually works - without multiple, lengthy trips back for service. 

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[Jewl]

vor 11 Stunden schrieb logan2z:

I think I'm going to change my answer to 'neither', if I had to choose today.  At least not until Leica can demonstrate that they can consistently deliver a new film camera that actually works - without multiple, lengthy trips back for service. 

true! And I really cannot imagine how uncomfortable the situation must be, if you are not located in Germany! And even then I find it very cumbersome to always send this expensive gear to Wetzlar always hoping everything is going smoothly. So either they improve the overall reliability from the beginning or they need to improve the service possibilities. As the latter does not seem to improve, I go for the former 😉 

[LocalHero1953]

5 minutes ago, Jewl said:

true! And I really cannot imagine how uncomfortable the situation must be, if you are not located in Germany! And even then I find it very cumbersome to always send this expensive gear to Wetzlar always hoping everything is going smoothly. So either they improve the overall reliability from the beginning or they need to improve the service possibilities. As the latter does not seem to improve, I go for the former 😉 

Sending stuff to Wetzlar is not a problem at all if you have a national Leica branch. I have always sent stuff via Leica in London. If I take it there, then they have done the packing as well. (The problem is always how long it takes to come back). Where do you live? 

Edited January 30 by LocalHero1953

[Jewl]

vor einer Stunde schrieb LocalHero1953:

Sending stuff to Wetzlar is not a problem at all if you have a national Leica branch. I have always sent stuff via Leica in London. If I take it there, then they have done the packing as well. (The problem is always how long it takes to come back). Where do you live? 

I typically leverage the parcels I initially received by customer care, these are properly buffered etc. - the next Leica store that could take this over is more or less on the way to Wetzlar (Leica Store Frankfurt, 1h drive - Wetzlar 1.5h drive) - but I really don't want to spend so much time always to drive Frankfurt or Wetzlar which costs me 3-4h which needs to be planned in parallel to working hours etc.. And it is anyway just the hand over, if they'd service/fix issues directly, then I would think about it.

But yes, it is fine to send it via UPS as long as the shipping label is provided.