Kiwimac Posted January 20, 2023 Share #1 Posted January 20, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) I’m 99% certain to order one. The dealer asked me if I prefer black or silver. They seem to be the same weight so I assume that the silver one is not brass. However, Silver is more expensive. If they’re both aluminium, anodised for colour, why don’t they cost the same? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted January 20, 2023 Posted January 20, 2023 Hi Kiwimac, Take a look here 50mm Apo Summicron question. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jakontil Posted January 20, 2023 Share #2 Posted January 20, 2023 Love silver, seemed to be more resistant too compared to black but i might be wrong, i went with the black anodized and swoop with the black chrome when it was released Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelatino Posted January 20, 2023 Share #3 Posted January 20, 2023 Silver lenses are less popular hence made in smaller number; more expensive when you buy it, but as being in limited number second hand, you get better price in case of sale. Note(if you are concerned by esthetics) that the silver color of aluminium lenses is not exactly the same as the one on brass (a little less shiny), so it doesn't match perfectly with the body color. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwimac Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share #4 Posted January 20, 2023 It would not match anyway - the camera is black chrome! 😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwimac Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share #5 Posted January 20, 2023 2 hours ago, jakontil said: Love silver, seemed to be more resistant too compared to black but i might be wrong, i went with the black anodized and swoop with the black chrome when it was released Pretty sure black chrome isn’t an option for that lens now. I think there was a brief run, which I would get if it was available, but I don’t think you can get it new now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted January 21, 2023 Share #6 Posted January 21, 2023 With my lenses it is like that - Black leses: Max aperture <=f/2 - Silver lenses: Max aperture >f/2 That's my way . . . 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cattoo Posted January 21, 2023 Share #7 Posted January 21, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, M11 for me said: With my lenses it is like that - Black leses: Max aperture <=f/2 - Silver lenses: Max aperture >f/2 That's my way . . . My setup is the exact opposite. I have a silver 50 and 35 summilux. My 35 and 28 summicrons and 21 SEM are black. It wasn't really my intent, but it does make it easier to identify what's what. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted January 22, 2023 Share #8 Posted January 22, 2023 You might mix up < and > Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted January 23, 2023 Share #9 Posted January 23, 2023 vor 2 Stunden schrieb jqian6: Let me rephrase, why do you shoot smaller aperture in black and bigger ones in silver? what's the rationales here? None. That is just how it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobert Posted January 23, 2023 Share #10 Posted January 23, 2023 I have two blacks. No difference in aperture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted January 23, 2023 Share #11 Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/19/2023 at 4:29 PM, Kiwimac said: .. However, Silver is more expensive. If they’re both aluminium, anodised for colour, why don’t they cost the same? marketing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwimac Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share #12 Posted January 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Huss said: marketing. In what way? I have not noticed the silver being marketed differently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted January 24, 2023 Share #13 Posted January 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Kiwimac said: In what way? I have not noticed the silver being marketed differently. Sure you have… pricing is part of a marketing plan. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted January 24, 2023 Share #14 Posted January 24, 2023 13 hours ago, Jeff S said: Sure you have… pricing is part of a marketing plan. Jeff Exactly, now 'we' are talking about it wondering if it is special, because it must be because it is painted silver and more expensive! Marketing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwimac Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share #15 Posted January 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Huss said: Exactly, now 'we' are talking about it wondering if it is special, because it must be because it is painted silver and more expensive! Marketing. Wondering about it doesn’t get them more sales. Indeed, it’s more likely to get them less if we find out that there’s no reason behind it. I think it’s just because silver used to be brass bodies and real chrome. That probably cost more. Now they’ve just extended that to “Silver costs more” even though in an anodised aluminium lens it actually costs the same as black! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwimac Posted January 25, 2023 Author Share #16 Posted January 25, 2023 Leica confirmed to the dealer that black and silver are both anodised aluminium. clearly any cost difference is based on keeping the old idea alive that Silver costs more than black rather than any actual extra expense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoutshooter Posted February 25, 2023 Share #17 Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) Hi all, I have following flare bahavior with my APO 50mm (constructed2018) by picture into the sun to 90% all my pictures. It is normal bahvior? What is your experience flares by photos apo summicron 50mm into the sun? Maybe you can share some picture with flare… It were interesed to see how the behavior is different… Thanks! M10 APO 50mm wide open Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 25, 2023 by scoutshooter worse quality picture Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/362389-50mm-apo-summicron-question/?do=findComment&comment=4700344'>More sharing options...
rpsawin Posted February 25, 2023 Share #18 Posted February 25, 2023 Is your dealer financing a boat or a boat with a tender? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joedotbrown Posted May 3, 2023 Share #19 Posted May 3, 2023 On 2/25/2023 at 8:09 AM, scoutshooter said: Hi all, I have following flare bahavior with my APO 50mm (constructed2018) by picture into the sun to 90% all my pictures. It is normal bahvior? What is your experience flares by photos apo summicron 50mm into the sun? Maybe you can share some picture with flare… It were interesed to see how the behavior is different… Thanks! M10 APO 50mm wide open Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Thanks for sharing all of this. I'm new to Leica, and I started with the M11 and 50apo. I've had it for about 10 days now. I came on here looking to compare my initial impressions with what others are saying. I got a similar flair, but my caveat is that I did put on a B+W MRC 007 clear glass filter. Here's what I got, which makes sense, given that the sun source is on the opposite side of yours - I did crop mine in a little. Looks like your experience is the same as mine. I don't think it's bad. I also see purple fringing and I'm trying to understand if that's normal, given all that's been said about chromatic aberration. Learning that purple fringing and CA might not be the same thing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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