Wonzo Posted October 24, 2022 Share #101 Posted October 24, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) vor 10 Stunden schrieb skueh: Just curious, can a pre-asph V2 produces such an arch effect? Sure, the new SR can do this as well ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 24, 2022 Posted October 24, 2022 Hi Wonzo, Take a look here 35/1.4 Steel Rim shots - old and new. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Yellow_78 Posted October 24, 2022 Share #102 Posted October 24, 2022 22 minutes ago, shirubadanieru said: That looks great! What strap is that btw if you don’t mind sharing? Looks very cool! The shutter button too goes really well with that body, congrats on a beautiful kit! Thanks for the kind words! The strap was from a company called "cubandco" based in NY. This model was named the "helix" strap. Unfortunately, I dont know if they still do camera straps he hasn't posted since 2019! But can always DM him on instagram to see if he is still active. The shutter button and hot shoe flash cover is from an Artisan based in Japan named Jay Tsujimura. Also a passionate Leica user, he makes quality hand made stuff! Also can be found on Instagram. Thanks again mate! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonzo Posted October 24, 2022 Share #103 Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) Here is what you might get with the new Steel Rim, if you shoot without the hood. Also you can see the light reflections on the water, which are quite similar to the old versions. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 24, 2022 by Wonzo 11 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/341625-3514-steel-rim-shots-old-and-new/?do=findComment&comment=4544103'>More sharing options...
Wonzo Posted October 24, 2022 Share #104 Posted October 24, 2022 Now the same motive, shot with the M10-R and the old Steel Rim. Reflections and also the glow of the old lens are not as blurry as with the new version. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/341625-3514-steel-rim-shots-old-and-new/?do=findComment&comment=4544118'>More sharing options...
Wonzo Posted October 24, 2022 Share #105 Posted October 24, 2022 What I forgot to mention is, that you will hardly find any chromatic abberation neither with the new nor with the old lens. Which I think is quite remarkable, if you look at images of much younger (apochromatic) lenses shot into the direct light. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinjun Posted October 24, 2022 Share #106 Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Stephencdean said: I have a titanium 35mm f1.4 (11860) and it doesn’t seem as soft as the new lens. I'd love to see a comparison of these two in the same lightning and scene. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinjun Posted October 24, 2022 Share #107 Posted October 24, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 19 minutes ago, Wonzo said: Now the same motive, shot with the M10-R and the old Steel Rim. Reflections and also the glow of the old lens are not as blurry as with the new version. Really interesting. Did you have a hood with the old steel rim? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 24, 2022 Share #108 Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) vor einer Stunde schrieb Stephencdean: I have a titanium 35mm f1.4 (11860) and it doesn’t seem as soft as the new lens. Will post two garden shots taken today, just unpacked lens! Apologies for lack of inspiration! New steel rim first then 11860 titanium. Both wide open. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Isn't the titanium a late version of the pre-Asph Summilux 35? The original steel-rim was early to mid-Sixties. 🤫 my post, being a Leica fan and rangefinder lover has been quoted. Edited October 24, 2022 by Apochromat Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted October 24, 2022 Share #109 Posted October 24, 2022 30 minutes ago, Wonzo said: Now the same motive, shot with the M10-R and the old Steel Rim. Reflections and also the glow of the old lens are not as blurry as with the new version. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Seems to me that this shot is slightly underexposed vs the 1st one? Or is the new remake letting in more light at the same settings? Either way really appreciate the comparison shots if you have the chance please keep posting more, especially close ups wide open etc Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted October 24, 2022 Share #110 Posted October 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Apochromat said: Isn't the titanium a late version of the pre-Asph Summilux 35? The original steel-rim was early to mid-Sixties. Nikkor 1.8/35mm RF came out quite a bit earlier and draws much nicer wide open than any KofB or "Real KofB" past (or present, at least from what I can see here). How to adapt this Nikkor rangefinder 35mm lens to M-mount?? There are people, who know how. Only so much: the good but sadly discontinued Amadeo adapter works fine with the 1.4/50mm Nikkor on Leica M bodies. (Mind you, at that time 50mm Summilux were follow-ups to this back then reputable 1.4/50 Nikon rangefinder lens. David Douglas Duncan and Robert Frank were not the only ones, who opted for this 50mm on their Leica.) The Nikkor 1.8/35mm rangefinder lens patent expired some time ago - how come there are no modern clones? Because it is still available in comparatively larger numbers. It made the 35mm "wide angle" popular (neither the 8-element nor the steel-rim could in those days... sorry guys, this is a Leica forum, I apologize) and gave Nikon rangefinder cameras a boost, before the SLRs started to dominate. 1.8/35 and 1.4/50 Nikkor rangefinder lenses sold so well, based on the fact, that they were and still are great performers... on digital. too. Just saying! OK, the steel - rim is new, it's pretty and it has 6-bit coding. And it is made by Leica in Germany (not to mention the dandy hood). Nikkor 35/1.8 is a great lens, but very rare in l-mount. The UC-Hexanon 35 f2 is a copy / remake of the nikkor. That being said, 8e and steel rim are equally great : ) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonzo Posted October 24, 2022 Share #111 Posted October 24, 2022 vor 14 Minuten schrieb sinjun: Really interesting. Did you have a hood with the old steel rim? No, I didn`t use a hood. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonzo Posted October 24, 2022 Share #112 Posted October 24, 2022 vor 5 Minuten schrieb shirubadanieru: Seems to me that this shot is slightly underexposed vs the 1st one? Or is the new remake letting in more light at the same settings? Either way really appreciate the comparison shots if you have the chance please keep posting more, especially close ups wide open etc Great observation. It might have to do with the M11 and its backlit sensor. The new SR was on the M11, the old one on the M10-R. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCHL0607 Posted October 24, 2022 Share #113 Posted October 24, 2022 7 hours ago, Yellow_78 said: This may fuel the desire 🤣 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Oh no… looks so good… 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonzo Posted October 25, 2022 Share #114 Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) 1. V1 from 1960 2. V3 new Both at f/1,4 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 25, 2022 by Wonzo 9 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/341625-3514-steel-rim-shots-old-and-new/?do=findComment&comment=4545364'>More sharing options...
egrossman Posted October 25, 2022 Share #115 Posted October 25, 2022 The rendering of these lenses looks the same to my eyes. Very glad to see this. Thanks! Erik 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
satijntje Posted October 25, 2022 Share #116 Posted October 25, 2022 35mm 1.4 Steel rim new at f 1.4 and ISO400 (M10-R) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/341625-3514-steel-rim-shots-old-and-new/?do=findComment&comment=4545391'>More sharing options...
Wonzo Posted October 25, 2022 Share #117 Posted October 25, 2022 vor 27 Minuten schrieb egrossman: The rendering of these lenses looks the same to my eyes. Very glad to see this. Thanks! Erik There are differences, but mostly only visible, if you zoom in. Bokeh bubbles are different, glow sometimes is different, but not really worth mentioning. The new edition is a bit sharper wide open - depending on the batch of the old V1. Leica really did a good job with this new edition. 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted October 25, 2022 Share #118 Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, satijntje said: 35mm 1.4 Steel rim new at f 1.4 and ISO400 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Any that show more of the famous coma ? e.g. a string of street lights running across the frame in to the corners Edited October 25, 2022 by FrozenInTime Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted October 26, 2022 Share #119 Posted October 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Wonzo said: 1. V1 from 1960 2. V3 new Both at f/1,4 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Yi Looks the same but the v3 resolves slightly better (prob since it’s new / coatings are updated) rendering wise I can’t tell them apart thoug Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirubadanieru Posted October 26, 2022 Share #120 Posted October 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Wonzo said: There are differences, but mostly only visible, if you zoom in. Bokeh bubbles are different, glow sometimes is different, but not really worth mentioning. The new edition is a bit sharper wide open - depending on the batch of the old V1. Leica really did a good job with this new edition. Can you show a comparison close up shot with bokeh bubbles? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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