Reissue 35mm Summilux Pre-Asph V1 Steel Rim

[dmakos]

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KENKO PRO 1 digital 43mm, 243510
HAKUBA XC-PRO 43mm, CF-XCPRLG43

Unfortunately, the Leica UV 13206 was too large.

[Milan_S]

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🔴Leica M10-R Black Paint - Steel Rim 35mm f1.4 (reissue)
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1 hour ago, Milan_S said:

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🔴Leica M10-R Black Paint - Steel Rim 35mm f1.4 (reissue)
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So very well-done, by a master!

[Besprosvet]

 

@Crem @maxpower @Al Brown @dmakos @Milan_S@Fred Miranda@jonoslack

Sorry to bother all of you,

but I have a question for the owners of this lens I'm really evaluating to get. All teh samples have wobbling aperture ring and tougher focus resistance near infinite? The store I'd like to buy it from told me that ALL the ones they had and have are like this, but at the same time they had zero returns for this reason. I don't know what to think. I don't know if I can save some money with the old one (and playing the lottery: if it's a well kept sample without hidden issues...).

Which is your experience? Thank you

Edited September 27, 2023 by Besprosvet

[dennersten]

Reissue. 

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[Crem]

8 hours ago, Besprosvet said:

 

@Crem @maxpower @Al Brown @dmakos @Milan_S@Fred Miranda@jonoslack

Sorry to bother all of you,

but I have a question for the owners of this lens I'm really evaluating to get. All teh samples have wobbling aperture ring and tougher focus resistance near infinite? The store I'd like to buy it from told me that ALL the ones they had and have are like this, but at the same time they had zero returns for this reason. I don't know what to think. I don't know if I can save some money with the old one (and playing the lottery: if it's a well kept sample without hidden issues...).

Which is your experience? Thank you

I purchased/received this lens very soon after it was launched. It arrived with a bit of a wobbly aperture ring and a tight focus ring that I think was tighter near infinity. The focus ring loosened up with about a month of use, but it was sticky at certain distance settings. By sticky I mean it was difficult to precisely move the focus ring without it jumping past the point I wanted it to stop. My assumption is the tough resistance you experienced is the same thing I had before I broke mine in.

I sent the lens into Leica for the sticky focus problem back in May. They said it would take 7 months to repair (under warranty), but they actually got it back to me in about 3 months. The lens now has a smooth and damped focus feel. The sticky focus is fixed, the aperture has the same amount of wobble, and I don't sense any extra resistance near infinity. 

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M10-P + 35mm Summilux steel rim re-issue

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[JoshuaR]

My one-week rental period with the Steel Rim reissue is almost over, and I still can't decide what I think! Do I want to sell some kit to buy one? Do I want to get a Pre-ASPH v2 instead? Or do I want to stick with my current 35mm setup—a Cron v3 and an FLE?

My plan is to send the Steel Rim back to LensRentals on Wednesday, and then shoot with my own lenses for a while. And then I'll go back in a bit, look over the SR images, and decide what to do. My gut, right now, is telling me that I really like this lens and want to swap my FLE for it. It is unique enough to be fun and surprising, but modern enough at smaller apertures to fit in with my mainly ASPH kit. And it is just small enough to be an everyday lens. I do wish that they'd kept the E41 size, instead of moving up to E46. (And I would be 100% jumping into this lens if, like my Cron v3, it was E39 and focussed to .7 meters....)

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Shot with M10-P and Steel Rim Re-issue

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Edited October 31, 2023 by dennersten

[junix]

On 9/20/2023 at 5:18 PM, dmakos said:

Here are the exact names and numbers of the filters that have been tried and tested successfully.
KENKO PRO 1 digital 43mm, 243510
HAKUBA XC-PRO 43mm, CF-XCPRLG43

Unfortunately, the Leica UV 13206 was too large.

Thank you once again @dmakos!

Ordered the Hakuba (directly from Japan because I live in the desert..)  but unfortunately mine is barely getting stuck in the "new" Ollux and it falls down with minimum shake of the camera. Though luck.

So I decided to buy a cheap 46mm filter and carve in with a hacksaw the following indentations (on both sides):

 

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The new Ollux clicks in exactly like on the steel rim, so at first I was really happy:

 

Then I moved the Reissue from the M-A to the M10-R and tested for vignetting.. unfortunately these few extra mm already cause hard vignetting.

Back to the drawing board. 

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[patrickcolpron]

Everything I can think of and my thoughts about the new Steel Rim versus the Original Steel rim, which one is better plus over 1200 sample photos made with both a new Steel Rim and 4 different original Steel Rim lenses in the course of a little over a year in one YouTube video. I really would like to know how this format works as a lens review video format.  

 

[RMF]

3 hours ago, patrickcolpron said:

Everything I can think of and my thoughts about the new Steel Rim versus the Original Steel rim, which one is better plus over 1200 sample photos made with both a new Steel Rim and 4 different original Steel Rim lenses in the course of a little over a year in one YouTube video. I really would like to know how this format works as a lens review video format.  

Thanks for putting this video together and sharing.
 

[Crem]

8 hours ago, patrickcolpron said:

Everything I can think of and my thoughts about the new Steel Rim versus the Original Steel rim, which one is better plus over 1200 sample photos made with both a new Steel Rim and 4 different original Steel Rim lenses in the course of a little over a year in one YouTube video. I really would like to know how this format works as a lens review video format.  

Thanks for putting this together. Such a shame that Leica knew about some of the steel rim remake issues during testing and chose to ignore them. I'm still on the fence about selling it and picking up a v2 as I find it a little too wild at f1.4 in some cases (usually I use f1.7 or f2). Have you considered having yours modified for a 0.7 MFD like Fred Miranda?

[patrickcolpron]

14 hours ago, RMF said:

Thanks for putting this video together and sharing.
 

My pleasure, thank you for watching.

8 hours ago, Crem said:

Thanks for putting this together. Such a shame that Leica knew about some of the steel rim remake issues during testing and chose to ignore them. I'm still on the fence about selling it and picking up a v2 as I find it a little too wild at f1.4 in some cases (usually I use f1.7 or f2). Have you considered having yours modified for a 0.7 MFD like Fred Miranda?

Thank you, greatly appreciated. I don't mind how it behaves at f/1.4 so much - but how it renders at f/8 is my main issue, definitely is not as good as an original. It's good for digital M bodies not so rewarding on film and you'd think a lens released at the same time as an analogue camera would have been geared more towards film shooters. It is not bad, yet so far from what it could have been.

I thought about modifying one and have it painted in black to match a black paint MP but.. I'd rather just get an original close focusing Steel Rim, there is something truly unique in how they render at f/1.4 and start being stellar on color film at f/8 like few other lenses. 

[Smudgerer]

2 hours ago, patrickcolpron said:

My pleasure, thank you for watching.

Thank you, greatly appreciated. I don't mind how it behaves at f/1.4 so much - but how it renders at f/8 is my main issue, definitely is not as good as an original. It's good for digital M bodies not so rewarding on film and you'd think a lens released at the same time as an analogue camera would have been geared more towards film shooters. It is not bad, yet so far from what it could have been.

I thought about modifying one and have it painted in black to match a black paint MP but.. I'd rather just get an original close focusing Steel Rim, there is something truly unique in how they render at f/1.4 and start being stellar on color film at f/8 like few other lenses. 

Yes Patrick, quite a bit of work you put in here with the comparasion review, it does in my view need a serious edit / trim to cut it to half it's present length or less but that's your choice and perogative of course. As to your thoughts though when your comments are boiled down I do tend to agree with you on most of your points made. I bought this lens earlier this year, struggled through the stupid and very frustrating  lens hood/vignetting issues that were more about Leica's incompetence than something that adversely affected it's use, put it aside and then picked it up many times wondering whether it was worth keeping or not more than once, but came down on the side of it being a "keeper" in the end.

I note you have some problems with it but personally I do like it's "imperfect look" wide open and it's 1 meter close focus limit has never bothered me. These days 90% of my work is in B&W using both film and digital and the 35mm focal length is by far my most used and even with my too many other 35mm lenses to choose from I have found that the re-issue tends to be the lens I pick up first. It's physical handling on a M is good for me and handling tends to be of prime importance to me with any lens, even more so than it's "look" at times..........I do wish that it came in black finish of course, I do wish that it had a better / sensible lens hood / and filter use set-up but I tend to use it "bare lensed" anyway so that's not really an issue and whilst the older original versions of this lens may well be better for some, ( for those that can afford them ), the re-issue sort of works fine for me, more or less in the same way as any of the rest of my M lens hoard do until of course I find something else, but that's another ball of wax.

Edited December 12, 2023 by Smudgerer
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[maxpower]

That video was long and I do think there was a lot of repetition, but I still enjoyed watching it and hearing about your experiences. It's hard for me to say whether I agree with the findings or not because I've never been fortunate enough to try an original copy, but I do agree it would've been nice if the reissue was closer to the original and the points you mention in this regard make a lot of sense to me. 

I'll never be able to justify the price of the original and shoot mostly digital so will continue enjoying my reissue, I'm very happy with it and sold my v2 to afford it. I had a short window to compare the two side by side and between my own v2 copy and the steel rim reissue I have I really preferred the reissue on my digital Ms.