darylgo Posted July 14, 2023 Author Share #481 Posted July 14, 2023 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Received my new hood today also, the hood design is not all that different from those on ebay, the quality is exceptional, # 12486, this appears to be the same number used on the old vignetting hood. Engraved "LEICA CAMERA WETZLAR MADE IN GERMANY" on the side opposite the photos. So, I took the older hood (received with the lens) and compared the new hood and .....they're so similar as to look identical, same width on the very front, same height, there is a subtle change in the number of concentric rings on the hood, from three to two. I haven't tried it to check vignetting, I'll continue to use my Contax GG-1 silver hood, it looks good on the silver lens. Edit: Upon further inspection, I am not sure there is a difference from old to new. Perhaps someone with younger eyes can see it. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited July 14, 2023 by darylgo No difference in hood design, old and new. 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/340261-reissue-35mm-summilux-pre-asph-v1-steel-rim/?do=findComment&comment=4814472'>More sharing options...
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rustyrus Posted July 15, 2023 Share #482 Posted July 15, 2023 The hoods are identical. Same numbering, same height, depth etc. Also same vignetting problem with a filter and hood as well. This is a head scratcher for me...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crem Posted July 15, 2023 Share #483 Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, rustyrus said: The hoods are identical. Same numbering, same height, depth etc. Also same vignetting problem with a filter and hood as well. This is a head scratcher for me...... I just finished comparing my "new" round hood to the original round hood. I can't see a single difference. They appear to be 100% the same. Unfortunately I don't have a lens to put it on so I can't say for sure. @Fred Miranda any thoughts on this? I'll happily take photos if anyone wants to see. I highly suspect @rustyrus is correct even though I have an official Leica letter telling me the opposite. I don't have the lens to actually try it so I don't want to make absolute claims about this. In theory I'll get my lens back from Leica repair in another 6 months to verify. Edited July 15, 2023 by Crem 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Miranda Posted July 15, 2023 Share #484 Posted July 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Crem said: I just finished comparing my "new" round hood to the original round hood. I can't see a single difference. They appear to be 100% the same. Unfortunately I don't have a lens to put it on so I can't say for sure. @Fred Miranda any thoughts on this? I'll happily take photos if anyone wants to see. I highly suspect @rustyrus is correct even though I have an official Leica letter telling me the opposite. I find it hard to believe that Leica made a mistake but that's what it looks like. They seem to have shipped the exact same original hood to their previous customers, which unfortunately means there is no solution for the noticeable vignetting when using it with a filter. I'm not sure what went wrong, but I have shared the results from the new hood here: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1779165/18#16293190 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crem Posted July 15, 2023 Share #485 Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Fred Miranda said: I find it hard to believe that Leica made a mistake but that's what it looks like. They seem to have shipped the exact same original hood to their previous customers, which unfortunately means there is no solution for the noticeable vignetting when using it with a filter. I'm not sure what went wrong, but I have shared the results from the new hood here: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1779165/18#16293190 Thanks @Fred Miranda I'm not joking when I say this. I now have a lens (supposedly going to be in service for ~7 months for sticky focus) with 5 hoods: 1. The original round hood (hard vignetting problem) 2. The original Ollux hood 3. They randomly shipped me a replacement Ollux hood back in May. I assume someone got confused by the round hood replacement waitlist? 4. Today's replacement round hood that appears to not actually be a replacement (even though I posted the official letter above). 5. The Ebay $9 hood round hood that Fred suggested. Sorry for the rant, but this is just absurd. Edited July 15, 2023 by Crem 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJH Posted July 15, 2023 Share #486 Posted July 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Fred Miranda said: I find it hard to believe that Leica made a mistake but that's what it looks like. They seem to have shipped the exact same original hood to their previous customers, which unfortunately means there is no solution for the noticeable vignetting when using it with a filter. I'm not sure what went wrong, but I have shared the results from the new hood here: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1779165/18#16293190 Leica have confirmed to me that this is a mix up, Customer Care just thought they were sending out replacement hoods (exactly the same) for faulty/broken ones - they weren’t sending out hoods to fix the vignetting issue everyone is aware of. They are coming but when? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiggiGun Posted July 15, 2023 Share #487 Posted July 15, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) My Leica Store gave me a " new one ". They have some in stock now. I have tested it and can confirm what is already written above. The " new " one is the " old " one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylgo Posted July 15, 2023 Author Share #488 Posted July 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Al Brown said: It’s the new and improved redesigned identical same old hood 😄. Incredible. A free lens hood from Leica, today I’ll be trying it on the other 46mm thread lenses to find a good use. My wife choked when I told her it retails for $250, arrived in a thin plastic bag, in a flimsy padded mailer that was severely damaged in transit. Of course we know it’s true value, $9 gets a nice equivalent from eBay, that is until you drop it and the cheaper one breaks while the Leica hood dents. Someone at Leica is not paying attention. I’ve never before received an apologetic letter for simply a replacement part. Glad they’re not maintenance/repair for the last airline I flew. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 15, 2023 Share #489 Posted July 15, 2023 1 hour ago, darylgo said: Someone at Leica is not paying attention. Indeed. Many problems could have been identified and addressed early if they just would have followed this forum. This latest replacement hood story is just embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudgerer Posted July 15, 2023 Share #490 Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Fred Miranda said: I find it hard to believe that Leica made a mistake but that's what it looks like. They seem to have shipped the exact same original hood to their previous customers, which unfortunately means there is no solution for the noticeable vignetting when using it with a filter. I'm not sure what went wrong, but I have shared the results from the new hood here: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1779165/18#16293190 UNBELIEVABLE.......... so the solution is still as per my early post, ( June 27th ), on this sad saga: Edited July 15, 2023 by Smudgerer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darlesch Posted July 15, 2023 Share #491 Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) It is TWICE now where they shipped replacement hoods to the people on the waiting list for a redesigned hood. How can this be possible? But this time there’s even a letter acknowledging the vignetting problem, which makes me think an actual redesigned hood exists but they accidentally sent the same hood instead of the new ones….? Edited July 15, 2023 by darlesch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylgo Posted July 15, 2023 Author Share #492 Posted July 15, 2023 33 minutes ago, Studienkamera said: Indeed. Many problems could have been identified and addressed early if they just would have followed this forum. From other members posting here on the forum my understanding is they do follow. There’s many good, if not great posts suggesting benefits or improvements to Leica products. If they do follow it is not apparent. Otoh, I love their products on many levels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crem Posted July 15, 2023 Share #493 Posted July 15, 2023 (edited) Did anyone outside the USA get this replacement round hood? I want to see proof the redesigned hood exists. Hopefully they don’t have the same part number, but something as simple as that could have caused this shipping problem. Edited July 15, 2023 by Crem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudgerer Posted July 15, 2023 Share #494 Posted July 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, Al Brown said: I did not. I dropped Leica Customer Care in Wetzlar a note for heads-up. Me too, early last week, and I got the same "form letter" reply word for word in an email as CREM did yesterday in the letter that was enclosed with his duplicated lens-hood...........and there was I thinking that Leica was responding to me personally regarding my request for action on this lens-hood mess, well that bubble went and burst. My contact said on Friday that there's nothing as yet re-designed or in production in regards to correcting their mistake as they just compound the issue with this silliness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crem Posted July 17, 2023 Share #495 Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) A very helpful customer care director helped sort out the problem. The redesigned round hood is now being shipped out. Last week they accidentally sent out the old round hoods instead of the redesigned ones. Sounds like the new batch of redesigned hoods just arrived today. I have also triple confirmed at this point that repairs are taking 7 months (even for warranty repairs). They continue to hire more people, but it will take time to train them. Nobody said this, but I do wonder if it will get worse before it gets better. Edited July 17, 2023 by Crem 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymc226 Posted July 18, 2023 Share #496 Posted July 18, 2023 On 7/14/2023 at 1:10 PM, darylgo said: Received my new hood today also, the hood design is not all that different from those on ebay, the quality is exceptional, # 12486, this appears to be the same number used on the old vignetting hood. Engraved "LEICA CAMERA WETZLAR MADE IN GERMANY" on the side opposite the photos. So, I took the older hood (received with the lens) and compared the new hood and .....they're so similar as to look identical, same width on the very front, same height, there is a subtle change in the number of concentric rings on the hood, from three to two. I haven't tried it to check vignetting, I'll continue to use my Contax GG-1 silver hood, it looks good on the silver lens. Edit: Upon further inspection, I am not sure there is a difference from old to new. Perhaps someone with younger eyes can see it. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I thought the same. Looking at it side to side, it's too easy to confuse both. I also haven't tried taking photos yet. Will put to original hood back in the packing material so I don't mix them up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymc226 Posted July 18, 2023 Share #497 Posted July 18, 2023 On 7/15/2023 at 1:24 AM, SJH said: Leica have confirmed to me that this is a mix up, Customer Care just thought they were sending out replacement hoods (exactly the same) for faulty/broken ones - they weren’t sending out hoods to fix the vignetting issue everyone is aware of. They are coming but when? However, the letter from Leica accompanying the new hood states otherwise . . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJH Posted July 19, 2023 Share #498 Posted July 19, 2023 8 hours ago, ymc226 said: However, the letter from Leica accompanying the new hood states otherwise . . . I think we are actually looking at two different notifications from Leica Customer Care - the first one was the mix up a few months ago i.e. they just sent out exactly the same original style hood. Most recently it does seem as though the new hood is shipping so I've asked Leica for an update for us in Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephencdean Posted July 19, 2023 Share #499 Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, SJH said: I think we are actually looking at two different notifications from Leica Customer Care - the first one was the mix up a few months ago i.e. they just sent out exactly the same original style hood. Most recently it does seem as though the new hood is shipping so I've asked Leica for an update for us in Europe. I just received another one, of what looks exactly the same, of the 12487 clip on hoods. I now have three. (Apologies)I don’t have much issue with the vignetting, nor what was needed to stop it, but to me I now have three clip-on hoods that look exactly the same…Will the difference be hardly noticeable to naked eye, or should I see a change in what should be the revised design? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudgerer Posted July 19, 2023 Share #500 Posted July 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, Stephencdean said: I just received another one, of what looks exactly the same, of the 12487 clip on hoods. I now have three. (Apologies)I don’t have much issue with the vignetting, nor what was needed to stop it, but to me I now have three clip-on hoods that look exactly the same…Will the difference be hardly noticeable to naked eye, or should I see a change in what should be the revised design? Can you please post a photo' of the hood, the new one you just recieved? Are there any differences you can see? Where are you, USA, EU or elsewhere? Thank you.......... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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