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vor 9 Stunden schrieb Stephencdean:

Just got my lens back from Wetzlar for a floppy aperture ring issue. To be honest, the aperture ring still feels as floppy as when I sent it to them. Just doesn’t feel like usual Leica quality. Spoils the lens a bit for me, as you use the aperture ring quite a bit, so keep getting reminded. Anyone else have a similar issue? 

Yes.

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33 minutes ago, Stephencdean said:

Are you just going to live with it like I am, or do you have other plans? Was wondering if it was just me! 

I was very close to returning my copy to my regular Leica Store, not for the same issue as you both, the "floppy" iris ring....mine's fine......My issue has always been the stupid lens hoods and the inability to mount any filter whilst using the vented Leica hood without incurring hard vignetting. ( The OLLUX copy hood is too big and anyway falls off the lens too easily so I'd never use the thing ). I decided last week to keep the lens after contact with Wetzlar whereby I was told that a revised lens hood solution was being worked on and the fact that I found a €8 vented hood on Amazon that worked fine with a filter with no vignetting.

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I have been on e-mail notification lists, for this lens. Well, I did not receive an e-mail, but, the Leica USA site showed available stock, Friday, the Seventh of July, shortly after noon, USA Central Time, so, I quickly signed-in, added one to my cart, and then proceeded to check-out, to see if PayPal Credit would be accepted form of payment. Yes, PayPal Credit was accepted, so, my order was placed, and confirmed. I hope for shipment to occur tomorrow.

If paid within six months, there will be no interest charged, so, I have that long to make sure that I like the 2022 Steel Rim, and then sell a few things, to help meet that final payment deadline. The ongoing limited availability should ensure that I can recover a decent amount, if I choose to sell/trade. 

I do not want a “fast” 35mm lens that is too soft, or too glowing, when wide-open. I tried a very-well-preserved Version II Summilux, pre-ASPH, that was available locally. It was just too soft, and too “glowing,” wide-open, for me to want to pay ~$3K US for it. I might want a niche lens with this much character, but, I would rather that a 35mm f/1.4 lens be a daily-use lens. The wide-open Version II images I have found on-line are similarly soft/glowing. 2022 Steel Rim images that I have seen, on-line, appear to be more to my taste. It is, of course, OK if the Steel Rim renders images less sharp, wide-open, than my Zeiss Distagon 35mm f/1.4 ZM images.

I also had a chance, earlier this year, to shoot with a Voigtlander Nokton 35mm f/1.4 II MC, at a coffee shop meet-up. I have nothing against well-made Cosina lenses, be they Zeiss ZM or Voigtlander VM/LTM. This was a NICE lens. I may actually order this one, and test them side-by-side, with the 2022 Steel Rim.

I will not worry about the hood situation, except to cry foul if they are not in the box. It will not matter whether the one fits too loosely, or that the other may cause a hard vignette. I will keep the hoods in the box, and the box protected, to preserve them, in case I want to sell the lens. I plan to use a Heliopan Step-Up Ring, or a filter, or perhaps a cheap generic hood, to protect the lens, during shooting trials.

I sincerely hope that this 2022 Steel Rim is found to be a “keeper.” It is such a visually pleasing lens, to look upon, and is my first Leica lens bought new. I started Leica M shooting with a pre-owned Summilux-M 50mm ASPH, and a new M10, five years ago. The Leica M lenses that I have added, since then, have also been pre-owned.

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vor 2 Stunden schrieb Stephencdean:

Are you just going to live with it like I am, or do you have other plans? 

A good question, to which I currently have no answer.

vor 2 Stunden schrieb Stephencdean:

Was wondering if it was just me! 

Don't know how many there are, but you´re not alone.

vor 1 Stunde schrieb Smudgerer:

...the "floppy" iris ring....mine's fine...

According to Leica, there are NO Steel Rim Reissues that do not wobble. Maybe you haven't noticed yet...?🤔

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6 hours ago, RexGig0 said:

I have been on e-mail notification lists, for this lens. Well, I did not receive an e-mail, but, the Leica USA site showed available stock, Friday, the Seventh of July, shortly after noon, USA Central Time, so, I quickly signed-in, added one to my cart, and then proceeded to check-out, to see if PayPal Credit would be accepted form of payment. Yes, PayPal Credit was accepted, so, my order was placed, and confirmed. I hope for shipment to occur tomorrow.

Nice idea, always good to get some time to raise some funds :). So, they still had at least one available as of today Sunday, so I jumped on it to see how it compares to my Nokton 35/1.4 ii. Should be fun.

-Thomas

 

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8 hours ago, RAW said:

A good question, to which I currently have no answer.

Don't know how many there are, but you´re not alone.

According to Leica, there are NO Steel Rim Reissues that do not wobble. Maybe you haven't noticed yet...?🤔

No, as I said, my copy is fine, wobble-less.

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vor 10 Stunden schrieb Al Brown:

Do you have an official Leica statement on that? Please post it here.

I have no intention of naming the employee who made this statement. Especially since it´s obviously not true:

vor 2 Stunden schrieb Smudgerer:

No, as I said, my copy is fine, wobble-less.

 

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1 hour ago, RAW said:

I don't see any contradiction to anything I said

 

You're right, at least to a degree anyway. Some people who own this lens are suffering with the "wobbly iris ring syndrome", others are not but maybe they have other issues like I do with their design/testing on this particular Summilux. The elephant in the room is Leica's quality control, not only with the 35 Summilux Classic but with quite a number of their products across the board and that coupled with the agonizingly long repair/service times to address faulty gear is something that they do seriously have to address, hopefully they are doing that.

Their products are high value, ( and there are legitimate reasons I think for the costs of what they offer ), they have relatively wealthy clients on the whole who are "faithful" to the brand, but if Leica does not address it's quality control and after sales service it's reputation will suffer further and buyers could seriously consider moving onto other less expensive but still highly capable choices or simply stick with what Leica "stuff" they have and not purchase new or "trade up" anymore........

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17 hours ago, Smudgerer said:

Their products are high value, ( and there are legitimate reasons I think for the costs of what they offer ), they have relatively wealthy clients on the whole who are "faithful" to the brand, but if Leica does not address it's quality control and after sales service it's reputation will suffer further and buyers could seriously consider moving onto other less expensive but still highly capable choices or simply stick with what Leica "stuff" they have and not purchase new or "trade up" anymore........

The unfortunate thing is there are many non- Leica users who have never used a Leica and see Leica as trading up. And I would think there are more of such non-Leica users than existing Leica users. In the past decade, Leica has been quite aggressive with opening new Leica stores around the world, and it feels lke their marketing is skewed towards selling products and acquiring new customers with little work (as far as I can tell) on the customer service and QC side (though to be fair, apparently Leica Singapore does handle more repairs than it did before because of new equipment and training, so not everything has to go to Germany - this should help the Asian side of things). Maybe they are selling more than customer service and QC can keep up. Where I'm at, the people working at the Leica stores don't seem to be photographers, they're salespeople. As a serious amateur photographer, I rarely have a connection with them when I do pop into a Leica store here, which is rare anyway because I find the staff there to be snobbish. I get it that the people working there are not employed to have a chat, but I've walked out of some Leica stores in Europe beaming, not because I bought something but because I could connect with a stranger about something we have in common. I understand the need to acquire customers and market. It helps the company long term. I just don't see any incentive for Leica to work on its customer service and QC if products are selling, since those two aspects aren't revenue generating.

I could minimise my Leica kit. Or move to another brand. I don't think anything will change from Leica's approach unless a substantial number of people follow suit and it is made known that these are longer term Leica users...which I doubt would happen. I will be replaced by a new Q3 owner, who may then buy an M11, and a new 50lux asph v2... and a 35apo.

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I have a package coming from Leica tomorrow, this is perplexing as I have no orders, I can't remember sending a repair ( a possibility I have forgotten with more than lengthy repair times).  The only thing I can think it would be is the new lens hood for the reissue Steel Rim.   Curious if others have a UPS package arriving tomorrow?  

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51 minutes ago, darylgo said:

I have a package coming from Leica tomorrow, this is perplexing as I have no orders, I can't remember sending a repair ( a possibility I have forgotten with more than lengthy repair times).  The only thing I can think it would be is the new lens hood for the reissue Steel Rim.   Curious if others have a UPS package arriving tomorrow?  

Correct, it is the redesigned lens hood. Fred Miranda is receiving his tomorrow. Leica NJ confirmed they are being shipped out.

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58 minutes ago, darlesch said:

Correct, it is the redesigned lens hood. Fred Miranda is receiving his tomorrow. Leica NJ confirmed they are being shipped out.

Thanks for the info, reading his forum it appears many will be receiving it tomorrow.  My thought on this is it would be a long long process, as it happens it is quicker than expected.    

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4 hours ago, darylgo said:

I have a package coming from Leica tomorrow, this is perplexing as I have no orders, I can't remember sending a repair ( a possibility I have forgotten with more than lengthy repair times).  The only thing I can think it would be is the new lens hood for the reissue Steel Rim.   Curious if others have a UPS package arriving tomorrow?  

I just had my new lens with the 12486 hood delivered today from the Leica US online store. Did you have to register with Leica for them to send you a new hood?

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I wrote an email to Leica customer service in New Jersey, they responded that I would be sent the new hood once it becomes available.  Iirc, I sent a copy of the sales slip with the email request.  I don't believe I registered the lens online.  

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27 minutes ago, lifeandmylens said:

Can you share some photos?

This is the best I can do right now. I removed the employee name from the letter as per forum rules.

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