a.noctilux Posted August 20, 2022 Share #21 Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, Sandy Wijaya said: Thanks for sharing your experiences... indeed 2.8 = bulky and quite a cheap price. Depends on the need though, I have browsed the Elmar M 135mm, nice lens... but then again my need will be on for f/2.8 Have you seen the same R 135mm cheaper, but need R to M adapter ? If not done, this would be my solution in your place. I see that is your also 😉. Edited August 20, 2022 by a.noctilux 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 20, 2022 Posted August 20, 2022 Hi a.noctilux, Take a look here Using Elmarit M 135mm f/2.8 without goggles. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
lct Posted August 20, 2022 Share #22 Posted August 20, 2022 I'm not good at comparing lenses of different apertures but the Elmarit-M 135/2.8 is a very good lens indeed and so is the Elmarit-R 135/2.8 which is optically the same lens as mentioned above but it cannot be used in RF mode as you know. Only con to me both M and R 135/2.8 feel bulky and heavy on M cameras, reason why i prefer the Apo-Telyt-M 135/3.4 there but it is a more expensive lens obviously. See technical data herewith if you don't know the lens already. Apo-Telyt-M 135 mm Technical Data_en.pdf 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Wijaya Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share #23 Posted August 21, 2022 4 hours ago, a.noctilux said: Have you seen the same R 135mm cheaper, but need R to M adapter ? If not done, this would be my solution in your place. I see that is your also 😉. Yeap, that's my current 135mm lens.. I'm thinking if i switched to Elmarit-M 135mm might be a good option or not... thanks anyway! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Wijaya Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share #24 Posted August 21, 2022 4 hours ago, lct said: I'm not good at comparing lenses of different apertures but the Elmarit-M 135/2.8 is a very good lens indeed and so is the Elmarit-R 135/2.8 which is optically the same lens as mentioned above but it cannot be used in RF mode as you know. Only con to me both M and R 135/2.8 feel bulky and heavy on M cameras, reason why i prefer the Apo-Telyt-M 135/3.4 there but it is a more expensive lens obviously. See technical data herewith if you don't know the lens already. Apo-Telyt-M 135 mm Technical Data_en.pdf 156.74 kB · 2 downloads Well noted for the same optics between Elmarit M and R... thanks for including Apo-Telyt 135mm... will check the data... Cheers! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 21, 2022 Share #25 Posted August 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sandy Wijaya said: I'm thinking if i switched to Elmarit-M 135mm might be a good option or not... Obvious . If you want to use a 135/2.8 lens in LV mode keep your R 135/2.8 as is. If you want to use it in RF mode, you need an M 135/2.8 with goggles because without them you could not focus accurately. Finally if you want to use the lens in both RF and LV modes, get the same M 135/2.8, keep the goggles, put an EVF in your hot shoe and enjoy this monster. Just kidding but not that much as it is exactly what i'm doing with a 90/4 and macro adapter, this way i can use it in RF or LV mode at will. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Wijaya Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share #26 Posted August 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, lct said: Obvious . If you want to use a 135/2.8 lens in LV mode keep your R 135/2.8 as is. If you want to use it in RF mode, you need an M 135/2.8 with goggles because without them you could not focus accurately. Finally if you want to use the lens in both RF and LV modes, get the same M 135/2.8, keep the goggles, put an EVF in your hot shoe and enjoy this monster. Just kidding but not that much as it is exactly what i'm doing with a 90/4 and macro adapter, this way i can use it in RF or LV mode at will. Elmarit-M 135mm seemed very logical choice... hahaha! thanks to all of you, lads! very helpful... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted August 21, 2022 Share #27 Posted August 21, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Another route to use the M135mm exists, the shortmount (for optical Visoflex, film M ). I do use the equivalent with Tele-Elmar 135mm ( optical cell only 11852 + 16464 focus ring + Visoflex III or 41mm ring 😃 on digital M using LV ). inspirations thread here Theorical for use with 2.8/135 optical cell called 11828, needing 16462 focus mount, plus 41mm ring to replace Visoflex III. Have fun in this infinite combinations from Leitz/Leica. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted August 21, 2022 Share #28 Posted August 21, 2022 21 hours ago, Sandy Wijaya said: Thanks for sharing your experiences... indeed 2.8 = bulky and quite a cheap price. Depends on the need though, I have browsed the Elmar M 135mm, nice lens... but then again my need will be on for f/2.8 There is no need for a 2.8 tele lens with modern digital bodies. You'll get a lot more bang for your buck (and less frustration - read up about calibrating the Elmarit's goggles first) if you go for a decent Tele-Elmar and just raise your iso a stop. The depth of field difference on a 135 between 2.8 and f4 is minimal. And the only good lens is one that you actually have with you - and I can guarantee the 2.8 will end up sitting at home whereas the Tele-Elmar or APO is easily included in the kit bag, or even used as a walk around lens like I've been doing with my APO the last couple of years. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoramer Posted August 21, 2022 Share #29 Posted August 21, 2022 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leica M10-R BP and the Elmarit-M 1:2.8/135 mm with goggles and the new Leica Visoflex-2 (freehand) 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Leica M10-R BP and the Elmarit-M 1:2.8/135 mm with goggles and the new Leica Visoflex-2 (freehand) ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/335762-using-elmarit-m-135mm-f28-without-goggles/?do=findComment&comment=4494378'>More sharing options...
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