Freddiew83 Posted August 17, 2022 Share #1 Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi guys! just got a new m11. only time the sensor has been exposed is when I put on the lens for the first time. In the upper left or the sky you'll see two round spots. is this a permanent thing or can this be remedied? New to all this, so any help or insight would be appreciated! I know that dust is normal, but is it so normal on a brand new cam? Thanks guys Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited August 17, 2022 by Freddiew83 Added a talking point 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/335644-dust-on-sensor-on-new-m11-anything-to-worry-about/?do=findComment&comment=4491228'>More sharing options...
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Photoworks Posted August 17, 2022 Share #2 Posted August 17, 2022 I think it is unpredictable when dust come in. most mirrorless camera softer from it. You can prevent dust on the sensor by changing lenses with the camera off. When changing lenses try to face the down, not up to the sky. Unfortunately dust is often in the air and can't be seen. I have a Giotto blower that I will use when I see dust on the sensor. In some cases you need a more extreme approach with a wet wipe. I usually take this with me on travel. better to have it and not to use it. It is best you get a liquid that can be taken on the plane... I would try a good blower first... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddiew83 Posted August 17, 2022 Author Share #3 Posted August 17, 2022 Thanks for that!! Appreciate the kind response. So nothing to worry about ? 😅 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 17, 2022 Share #4 Posted August 17, 2022 Nope. There is a post on cleaning sensors in the Leica M FAQ 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted August 17, 2022 Share #5 Posted August 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Freddiew83 said: Thanks for that!! Appreciate the kind response. So nothing to worry about ? 😅 no big deal, some time the dust is on the lens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted August 17, 2022 Share #6 Posted August 17, 2022 Get yourself a nice rocket blower. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted August 17, 2022 Share #7 Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) With an M camera, dust on the sensor is pretty much inevitable. The two spots in your image are not a serious issue IMO - a blower bulb may remove them. If not, I would consider them a minor annoyance and clone them out in post processing. Down the road when you have more dust on your sensor and need to clean it, you can get all of it by using sensor cleaning fluid and a sensor cleaning swab. I have to clean my sensor 2-3 times a year; for my M-P 240, that means I have self cleaned my sensor 15-20 times in the seven years I have had it. I have never had a problem result from doing it myself and at a cost $50 a cleaning for having a "professional" do it, I have saved a chunk of cash. Edited August 17, 2022 by Herr Barnack 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted August 17, 2022 Share #8 Posted August 17, 2022 Yeah try to clean it yourself, apart from saving money, and save time to send the camera out to the repairman dust would inevitably rest on sensor, nothing we can avoid unless we dont use it at all Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted August 17, 2022 Share #9 Posted August 17, 2022 FFS, you all need to stop using unfiltered blowers like the Rocket. That just blows more dust up into the camera. Get a filtered blower like an EyeLead. Makes a huge difference. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted August 17, 2022 Share #10 Posted August 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, hdmesa said: FFS, you all need to stop using unfiltered blowers like the Rocket. That just blows more dust up into the camera. Get a filtered blower like an EyeLead. Makes a huge difference. I have been using unfiltered Rocket blower for many years without any issues. Of course, YMMV. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted August 17, 2022 Share #11 Posted August 17, 2022 52 minutes ago, SrMi said: I have been using unfiltered Rocket blower for many years without any issues. Of course, YMMV. Why use a blower that ingests dust only to blow it back out again? I guess if you’re in a very sterile environment without much air movement then filtration may be less needed. When I used the Rocket, it would blow off the big chunks of dust from the sensor but it never fully got rid of the pesky very small dust spots that are really annoying at f/11-16, especially on a monochrome sensor like the M10M. I still recommend you try one — it’s really good at fully clearing off everything from the sensor with only a few puffs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobert Posted August 17, 2022 Share #12 Posted August 17, 2022 Is the M11 more vulnerable to dust than previous M-versions? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 17, 2022 Share #13 Posted August 17, 2022 If that is your problem, use the GreenClean vacuum system. Works perfectly. In any case, get the loose dust and bits off before you try any other cleaning (pollen and oil can be sticky) If one piece of grit is sharp like a mini-grain of sand, it might scratch your sensor when dragged over it. One thing: Don't lean over the sensor whilst cleaning: You shed little flakes of skin and bits of eyelash which you don't want to drop on your sensor. 10 minutes ago, hdmesa said: Why use a blower that ingests dust only to blow it back out again? I guess if you’re in a very sterile environment without much air movement then filtration may be less needed 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 17, 2022 Share #14 Posted August 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gobert said: Is the M11 more vulnerable to dust than previous M-versions? I cannot think of a reason why it should be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted August 17, 2022 Share #15 Posted August 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, hdmesa said: Why use a blower that ingests dust only to blow it back out again? I guess if you’re in a very sterile environment without much air movement then filtration may be less needed. Mainly because a decent quality blower doesn’t blow dust back out. Giottos and other good brands have a valve and filter to prevent that. It’s meant to blow off dust that is relatively loose. Other methods are for more stubborn things stuck to the sensor lime wet cleaning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted August 17, 2022 Share #16 Posted August 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Gobert said: Is the M11 more vulnerable to dust than previous M-versions? No. But a new camera is more susceptible to higher static electricity until it subsides. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted August 17, 2022 Share #17 Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, jdlaing said: Mainly because a decent quality blower doesn’t blow dust back out. Giottos and other good brands have a valve and filter to prevent that. It’s meant to blow off dust that is relatively loose. Other methods are for more stubborn things stuck to the sensor lime wet cleaning. Rocket has a one-way valve but no filtration, though, right? So it’s not sucking dust back up from the tip, but ingests dust from the rear. Rocket’s the brand I referenced — any filtered brand is better. Edited August 17, 2022 by hdmesa Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobert Posted August 17, 2022 Share #18 Posted August 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, jaapv said: I cannot think of a reason why it should be. Because the sensor is always exposed when the cam is switched on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted August 17, 2022 Share #19 Posted August 17, 2022 Just now, hdmesa said: Rocket has a one-way valve but no filtration, though, right? So it’s not sucking dust back up from the tip, but ingests dust from the rear. A good quality one does not ingest dust. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted August 17, 2022 Share #20 Posted August 17, 2022 Just now, jdlaing said: A good quality one does not ingest dust. Go back and read my original post. I mentioned avoiding Rocket and using a filtered blower like EyeLead. We’re not saying different things here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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