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My finger is hovering over the buy button on a Sony RX100 VII (apologies for profanity) as a pairing for my Q2 mono because

i) I want to stay light

ii) I can't commit to mono travelling to destinations that I might not return to.

iii) It adds wider when needed and zoom to 200mm

I can see that the high ISO is absolutely pants above 1600 and f4.5 at the long end won't help with that.

I'm sure I'm not the first to stress over this.

Any recommends?

 

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Do you really think that anybody except yourself can help here? To me it sounds as if there is that one top camera out there that perfectly goes with your first one. But in reality out there there are such a lot of options that have strengths and weeknesses. There is no path that is optimised and best for money. There is no evaluation result that brings you the one and single optimal solution. I hope that you just think what your criteria are: Two we know by now: light and travel. Light cameras you get from Sony, Fuji, Leica and some others that I do not know. List some of their options and valuate yourself. And the thing with ISO: The Q2 is an excellent camera. There are some others that are better: Do you plan to shoot when its dark? How important is that really?

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28 minutes ago, M11 for me said:

Do you really think that anybody except yourself can help here? To me it sounds as if there is that one top camera out there that perfectly goes with your first one. But in reality out there there are such a lot of options that have strengths and weeknesses. There is no path that is optimised and best for money. There is no evaluation result that brings you the one and single optimal solution. I hope that you just think what your criteria are: Two we know by now: light and travel. Light cameras you get from Sony, Fuji, Leica and some others that I do not know. List some of their options and valuate yourself. And the thing with ISO: The Q2 is an excellent camera. There are some others that are better: Do you plan to shoot when its dark? How important is that really?

Well someone further down this road might say they tried the RX100 and hated it because…

I expect to shoot inside buildings as well as outside. It’s important but I hope the Q2M will do it’s magic indoors

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Gerade eben schrieb PaulJohn:

Well someone further down this road might say they tried the RX100 and hated it because…

I expect to shoot inside buildings as well as outside. It’s important but I hope the Q2M will do it’s magic indoors

You are absolutely right. But further down another person will tell you that he/she loved it.

Maybe what would help is a choice of cameras. But our bosses here in the forum might not like that too much. To make it simple: Buy a Q2 in color or wait for the Q3 that is expected next year.

That is no much help. I know.

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8 hours ago, PaulJohn said:

My finger is hovering over the buy button on a Sony RX100 VII (apologies for profanity) as a pairing for my Q2 mono because

i) I want to stay light

ii) I can't commit to mono travelling to destinations that I might not return to.

iii) It adds wider when needed and zoom to 200mm

I can see that the high ISO is absolutely pants above 1600 and f4.5 at the long end won't help with that.

I'm sure I'm not the first to stress over this.

Any recommends?

 

I bought the D-Lux 7 (as a present for my SO) instead of the RX100 VII. Trading in the 200mm reach for a better lens. Both would be versatile choices for travel.

However, as already mentioned in this thread, seriously rethink if a current generation flagship smartphone is not "good enough"? Whenever the D-Lux stays at home, it's not because it doesn't go to 200mm, but because the smartphone is more convenient. 

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So many ways to go.  I’m on a quick outing with friends. No time or inclination to swap lenses.  None of them care about photography including my wife. 
 

Brought the Q2 and A1 with 28-200 lens.  One camera at a time depending upon the situation.  :)

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7 hours ago, Stuart Richardson said:

I would look at the Ricoh GRIII or IIIx. Super compact, great lens quality and an APS-C sensor  

+1

The X version has 40mm, perfect match for the 28 Lux of your Q2M. I had the ricoh GR v1 and I can only say... Wow!

11 hours ago, PaulJohn said:

I can see that the high ISO is absolutely pants above 1600 and f4.5 at the long end won't help with that.

Ricoh last gen. no problem. Fantastic 3200 and great 6400

 

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16 hours ago, PaulJohn said:

My finger is hovering over the buy button on a Sony RX100 VII (apologies for profanity) as a pairing for my Q2 mono because

i) I want to stay light

ii) I can't commit to mono travelling to destinations that I might not return to.

iii) It adds wider when needed and zoom to 200mm

I can see that the high ISO is absolutely pants above 1600 and f4.5 at the long end won't help with that.

I'm sure I'm not the first to stress over this.

Any recommends?

 

This is exactly my daily walk around combo. the Sony RX100vii is a micro marvel and is the camera that is always with me as it even fits in my trouser pockets. Make a really great companion to the Q2 

 

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Is it not the one basic question that is at the beginning of it all? "Do I want to go for Leica or not". Of course there are dozens of great options out there. Plus all other options cost less money. But only a Leica is a Leica is a Leica.

And when you decide to go for something else you will have an excellent product and you will be very happy.

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Setting aside that the CL has been orphaned, with no further APS-C bodies to come, it ticks quite a few boxes. As a Q2M user, you'll find the menus and controls of the CL much more familiar than learning to drive a Sony (I also use Sony, and the menus are not as bad as YouTubers always complain).

I've not checked whether Leica's abandonment of the format has lead to former users selling their kit cheap(ish), but maybe? Some of the recent Sigma Contemporary primes are a good fit on the CL if you want to reduce the cost - and they work well.

An even smaller option is the D-Lux 7 or older D-Lux typ 109 (or Panasonic LX100II/LX100 versions). Ergonomically way better than the RX100 series in my experience.

 

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I had a D-lux 7 at one time and it was pretty nice.  It does a lot.  About the only things I didn't like was some noise in the images in low light situations and a slight loss of image quality at the far end of the zoom range.  In normal situations the images were fine.

The only thing with having a Q2M and Q2 is that you're limited with the same focal length in both cameras.  I would want something more versatile as a 2nd camera to the Q2.  

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On 7/28/2022 at 8:47 AM, PaulJohn said:

My finger is hovering over the buy button on a Sony RX100 VII (apologies for profanity) as a pairing for my Q2 mono because

i) I want to stay light

ii) I can't commit to mono travelling to destinations that I might not return to.

iii) It adds wider when needed and zoom to 200mm

I can see that the high ISO is absolutely pants above 1600 and f4.5 at the long end won't help with that.

I'm sure I'm not the first to stress over this.

Any recommends?

 

Try a Sony A7C. A 24MP full frame body with the Sony 28-60 kit lens. Alternatively, the Sony 40mm or 50/2.5G, and Sigma 90mm f/2.8 DG DN for a nice combo. Excellent in low light and snappy AF.

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