Capuccino-Muffin Posted July 26, 2022 Share #1 Posted July 26, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Damn M7. Sluggish cameras. The AE was a bad implementation. Just like the M8/M9 shutters: so sluggish. I’m on vacation with two M7s and a bunch of batteries. The heath kills the batteries much faster and I’m left shooting 1/125th @ f11-f16 most of the time. Next time It’s good ole MP/M2/M4... never M7 for anything half serious. Just too sluggish all over. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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andybarton Posted July 26, 2022 Share #2 Posted July 26, 2022 Strange. My M7 had a superb meter and never displayed any sluggish behaviour. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 26, 2022 Share #3 Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Capuccino-Muffin said: Damn M7. …. never M7 for anything half serious. Just too sluggish all over. Yet you have two! 🤔 Didn’t you figure this issue out BEFORE you got the 2nd one, or for that matter took them both on vacation? Why didn’t you take one of the other versions with you? Edited July 26, 2022 by OThomas Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotoklaus Posted July 26, 2022 Share #4 Posted July 26, 2022 Then you can shoot your M2 with 1/125 and f11 next time 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted July 26, 2022 Share #5 Posted July 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Capuccino-Muffin said: I’m on vacation with two M7s and a bunch of batteries Maybe your bunch of batteries ? Just in case, I never use M7(oh!) but had encountered "bad" batteries somewhere else. Try sourcing in a trusty shop more bunch of trusty batteries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted July 26, 2022 Share #6 Posted July 26, 2022 vor 2 Stunden schrieb Capuccino-Muffin: The heath kills the batteries much faster What kind of batteries are you using, man? In my M7, the batteries seemingly last for ages. I never take more than one set of spare batteries with me, and never had any battery related problems. And what do mean by sluggish bahaviour? My M7 is as responsive as my M3. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knipsknecht Posted July 26, 2022 Share #7 Posted July 26, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) vor 1 Stunde schrieb andybarton: Strange. My M7 had a superb meter and never displayed any sluggish behaviour. ... same here. The M7 is my favorite analog camera. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted July 26, 2022 Share #8 Posted July 26, 2022 My M7 never failed me. Never. Even on long days in the Everglades, swamp, humidity, sweat. In the 4 years I owned the M7, I never needed to change the battery. Good Luck. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted July 26, 2022 Share #9 Posted July 26, 2022 4 hours ago, Capuccino-Muffin said: Just like the M8/M9 shutters: so sluggish. News to me! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted July 26, 2022 Share #10 Posted July 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Capuccino-Muffin said: Damn M7. Sluggish cameras. The AE was a bad implementation. Just like the M8/M9 shutters: so sluggish. I’m on vacation with two M7s and a bunch of batteries. The heath kills the batteries much faster and I’m left shooting 1/125th @ f11-f16 most of the time. Next time It’s good ole MP/M2/M4... never M7 for anything half serious. Just too sluggish all over. My M7, whether in manual or AE ls fast and responsive, metering is fabulous, and I've not had a fault in the 8 years I've had the camera. However, I certainly don't get battery life like Kivis. I too have an M3 and the delay comparing one vs sort-of-two stages when depressing the shutter release button is miniscule. Sounds like you're talking about a different camera to the rest of us - very strange. Not had someone complain about this before and you do have 2 M7s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capuccino-Muffin Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share #11 Posted July 26, 2022 I am extremely sensitive to what I’m using. The feel, haptics. To show the sluggishness of a M7, a Leicavit cannot shoot it over 2fps while a MP can go to 4 fps in skilled hands. And the batteries, they last 50 films usually. I burn through 50 quite fast. But these hot days it looks like 15-20 rolls is the limit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotoklaus Posted July 26, 2022 Share #12 Posted July 26, 2022 vor 2 Minuten schrieb Capuccino-Muffin: I am extremely sensitive to what I’m using. The feel, haptics. To show the sluggishness of a M7, a Leicavit cannot shoot it over 2fps while a MP can go to 4 fps in skilled hands. And the batteries, they last 50 films usually. I burn through 50 quite fast. But these hot days it looks like 15-20 rolls is the limit. I can lend you my F5. so you could burn through 50 rolls even faster. So you bought two M7 to not like the camera at all? Interesting story.... 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted July 26, 2022 Share #13 Posted July 26, 2022 Maybe just sell the two and get something else. Photography should be a happy sport. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted July 26, 2022 Share #14 Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Capuccino-Muffin said: I am extremely sensitive to what I’m using. The feel, haptics. To show the sluggishness of a M7, a Leicavit cannot shoot it over 2fps while a MP can go to 4 fps in skilled hands. And the batteries, they last 50 films usually. I burn through 50 quite fast. But these hot days it looks like 15-20 rolls is the limit. If you need to shoot at 4fps then I'd suggest that an SLR with motordrive would be a better choice of camera. I don't think of any M as a 'fast' camera. Horses for courses!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capuccino-Muffin Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share #15 Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, earleygallery said: If you need to shoot at 4fps then I'd suggest that an SLR with motordrive would be a better choice of camera. I don't think of any M as a 'fast' camera. Horses for courses!! This simply means that when stretched, the M7 chokes where a MP horses on and on and on. Basically, the M7 in my hands feels slouchy at all times. It is bearable for slow poke photography but totally unbearable for faster stuff. By faster, I mean simple sharpshooting street photography, no fps. There is that constant lack of instantaneous feedback as opposed to any other mecanical M or Barnack. The M7, however, is totally instantanous when set on its mechanical speeds. As a test, it will not choke when set on its mechanical speeds with a Leicavit. Anyone who goes through at least 100 rolls within a month with a M7, like I do, should totally relate to mt experience. Anyone who shoots 3 rolls a month will miss the point, which is understandable. Edited July 26, 2022 by Capuccino-Muffin Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kivis Posted July 26, 2022 Share #16 Posted July 26, 2022 In my hands, the M7 was never slouchy and was a whiz at sharpshooting. Could not ask for more or better. AE or mechanical, what a great rig. Maybe you should check your hands or your attitude, I dare say. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capuccino-Muffin Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share #17 Posted July 26, 2022 3 hours ago, kivis said: Maybe just sell the two and get something else. Photography should be a happy sport. I appreciate the M7 for color photography, which always involves a circular polarizing filter. Measures the light exactly TTL and TTF (through the filter). Also, I wouldn’t *totally* mind selling them but they are Black Paint a la carte x0.58 and every time I check, they seem to jump in price by 100$ every month for the past 5 years... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capuccino-Muffin Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share #18 Posted July 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, kivis said: In my hands, the M7 was never slouchy and was a whiz at sharpshooting. ¡Respect! 🤠 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frase Posted July 26, 2022 Share #19 Posted July 26, 2022 25 minutes ago, Capuccino-Muffin said: This simply means that when stretched, the M7 chokes where a MP horses on and on and on. Basically, the M7 in my hands feels slouchy at all times. It is bearable for slow poke photography but totally unbearable for faster stuff. By faster, I mean simple sharpshooting street photography, no fps. There is that constant lack of instantaneous feedback as opposed to any other mecanical M or Barnack. The M7, however, is totally instantanous when set on its mechanical speeds. As a test, it will not choke when set on its mechanical speeds with a Leicavit. Anyone who goes through at least 100 rolls within a month with a M7, like I do, should totally relate to mt experience. Anyone who shoots 3 rolls a month will miss the point, which is understandable. That is a lot of film! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
didier Posted July 26, 2022 Share #20 Posted July 26, 2022 My biggest Leica mistake was to sell my M7 (as I already had 3 other M bodies) when I bought my first digital camera (M(240)). The M7 is the most responsive M ever (about 10ms shutter lag) Didier 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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