Al Brown Posted June 16, 2022 Share #21 Posted June 16, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) I hope this thread gets at least 8 subpages. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 Hi Al Brown, Take a look here M11 sensor and cosmic radiation.. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Eclectic Man Posted June 16, 2022 Share #22 Posted June 16, 2022 I think you may be worrying about the wrong thing. YOU are being exposed to cosmic radiation, and are a much larger target than the M11 sensor. If you are really worried, obtain some high sensitivity photographic film, and cover your camera with it. Develop the film after the 'exposure' (flight) and see whether there was any activity. After all, this is how Becquerel discovered Uranium was radioactive (although he, it seems, attributed the marks on the photographic plate to chemistry, leaving Mme Curie to deduce and prove radioactive decay). Or, if you are not bothered about paying a luggage weight surcharge, buy some lead sheeting and cover your camera in that. Just remember what the old lady said: "If God had meant us to fly, He would never have given us the railways!" Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 16, 2022 Share #23 Posted June 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Eclectic Man said: I think you may be worrying about the wrong thing. YOU are being exposed to cosmic radiation, and are a much larger target than the M11 sensor. If you are really worried, obtain some high sensitivity photographic film, and cover your camera with it. Develop the film after the 'exposure' (flight) and see whether there was any activity. After all, this is how Becquerel discovered Uranium was radioactive (although he, it seems, attributed the marks on the photographic plate to chemistry, leaving Mme Curie to deduce and prove radioactive decay). Or, if you are not bothered about paying a luggage weight surcharge, buy some lead sheeting and cover your camera in that. Just remember what the old lady said: "If God had meant us to fly, He would never have given us the railways!" There was some research - although not uncontested- that flight crew on the transpolar routes suffered an above-average number of brain tumours. 1 minute ago, jaapv said: Or, if you are not bothered about paying a luggage weight surcharge, buy some lead sheeting and cover your camera in that. Which won't help at all -it would need to be many feet thick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted June 17, 2022 Share #24 Posted June 17, 2022 On 6/15/2022 at 1:44 PM, SiOnara said: Unfortunately it's EasyJet... Look on the bright side; it might have been with RyanAir... Philip. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailwagger Posted June 17, 2022 Share #25 Posted June 17, 2022 6 hours ago, SiOnara said: Wrapping in tin foil sounds like a good idea. Personally, I'd go with lead tape as its specifically designed for flight situations. Worked wonders on my pitching wedge. 😆 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted June 17, 2022 Share #26 Posted June 17, 2022 Never had a problem with the M10. I still have the baseplate sticker on which may account for it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclectic Man Posted June 17, 2022 Share #27 Posted June 17, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Me: "Or, if you are not bothered about paying a luggage weight surcharge, buy some lead sheeting and cover your camera in that." 14 hours ago, jaapv said: Which won't help at all -it would need to be many feet thick. I didn't say how much lead sheeting. See: https://www.pnnl.gov/main/publications/external/technical_reports/PNNL-20693.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted June 17, 2022 Share #28 Posted June 17, 2022 On 6/16/2022 at 1:14 AM, jaapv said: A nice idea especially combined with wrapping it in tin foil. In reality you would need a camera case made out of concrete ten meters thick. Concrete or not, does it count as hand luggage 😅? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted June 17, 2022 Share #29 Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) Amish M11 owners have it made in the shade. No high altitude neutron damage to their sensors and oats for their horses are WAY less costly than gasoline. I'm giving serious consideration to converting... Edited June 17, 2022 by Herr Barnack Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted June 17, 2022 Share #30 Posted June 17, 2022 17 minutes ago, Herr Barnack said: Amish M11 owners have it made in the shade. No high altitude neutron damage to their sensors and oats for their horses are WAY less costly than gasoline. I'm giving serious consideration to converting... You’ll have to give up your computer and digital cameras. Not allowed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Geschlecht Posted June 18, 2022 Share #31 Posted June 18, 2022 9 hours ago, Herr Barnack said: Amish M11 owners have it made in the shade. No high altitude neutron damage to their sensors and oats for their horses are WAY less costly than gasoline. I'm giving serious consideration to converting... Hello Herr Barnack, If you do, you might be pleasantly surprised. Oats are not only less expensive than gasoline. But they are tastier too. Best Regards, Michael Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonomaTim Posted July 2, 2022 Share #32 Posted July 2, 2022 (edited) Forget the tin foil wraps and hats... A *real* photographer would dig through his closet, find an old film shield bag, and stuff his M11 inside. 🙂 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited July 2, 2022 by SonomaTim Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/333574-m11-sensor-and-cosmic-radiation/?do=findComment&comment=4463478'>More sharing options...
AndreasG Posted July 2, 2022 Share #33 Posted July 2, 2022 I see a good a chance to sell round lead plates with an E39 thread at a premium price to the faint-hearted. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kona Posted July 3, 2022 Share #34 Posted July 3, 2022 This is exactly why I got the silver one: it reflects most cosmic rays and the brass absorbs any strays much better than aluminium! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted July 3, 2022 Share #35 Posted July 3, 2022 2 hours ago, kona said: This is exactly why I got the silver one: it reflects most cosmic rays and the brass absorbs any strays much better than aluminium! you must be on the space ship often if you are worried about it. maybe you are a pilot? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted July 3, 2022 Share #36 Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) @SonomaTim Whenever I fly, my digital M (or Q2, whichever I take) goes into one of these. I took three other large Domke Film Guard bags, cut the seams apart and sewed them together to make a lead lined balaclava to wear during air travel in order to protect my brain. Cosmic radiation is not something to be taken lightly. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited July 3, 2022 by Herr Barnack 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/333574-m11-sensor-and-cosmic-radiation/?do=findComment&comment=4464620'>More sharing options...
MrPaulK Posted July 4, 2022 Share #37 Posted July 4, 2022 Y’all crazy enough about baseplates and shutter sounds that I can’t tell which is serious and which isn’t in this thread. 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeicaR10 Posted July 4, 2022 Share #38 Posted July 4, 2022 MrPaulK, First, welcome to the forum. Second, what you observed is normal here. r/ Mark Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Barnack Posted July 4, 2022 Share #39 Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, MrPaulK said: Y’all crazy enough about baseplates and shutter sounds that I can’t tell which is serious and which isn’t in this thread. @MrPaulK Welcome to the Red Dot insane asylum. The expression "nuttier than rat feces in a peanut factory" applies in these parts with disquieting regularity. Edited July 4, 2022 by Herr Barnack 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kona Posted July 4, 2022 Share #40 Posted July 4, 2022 6 hours ago, Photoworks said: you must be on the space ship often if you are worried about it. maybe you are a pilot? I was joking of course. But now that I think about it, I am going to try and make this a thing whenever the old silver Vs black argument comes up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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