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New Leica M11 Firmware Update with v.1.4.0.0 - Download Link and Improvements


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I also installed new firmware v1.4.0.0 the moment it came out.
Perhaps it was a mistake but now is to late to complain...
Any way I think now the M11 work a little bit better than before FW update.
Some thing did improved and some did't...

I find that a highlight weighted metering works more reliable but not much.
I don't use exposure metering method often so I can't tell...

I made a large shutter test and have shoot few hundred photos for that.

The camera start up time is the same as before with my large SD cards that I used before the FW update.
I have two 128Gb Kingston Canvas 300MB/s SDXC v90
and five 64Gb Lexar Professional 150MB/s SDXC v60 for my M11...
I also tested 64Gb inside memory...

The test showed me that with Kingston 128Gb when I shoot
Single I can menage to take a shoot one by one but after some time I still get some “hick-up“...
The same with Lexar 64Gb...
Inside 64Gb memory had no such problems...
This is with Auto review set to Shutter button pressed or to Off.
I find that Auto review set to Off is better somehow so I have it always on Off setting...

The setting for the test are: ISO 200 , 1/1000sec, all manual ...

The continuous shooting  with Kinstone 128Gb:
L-DNG     - L fps = 12 frames
                - H fps = 12 frames
M-DNG   - L fps = 16 frames
                - H fps = 12 frames
S-DNG    - L fps = 16 frames
                - H fps = 16 frames

The continuous shooting  with Lexar 64Gb:
L-DNG     - L fps = 15 frames
                - H fps = 15 frames
M-DNG   - L fps = did't slowed down 
                - H fps = 16 frames
S-DNG    - L fps = did't slowed down 
                - H fps = did't slowed down 

The continuous shooting  on 64Gb inside memory:
L-DNG     - L fps = did't slowed down so I stoped
                - H fps = 17 frames
M-DNG   - L fps = did't slowed down 
                - H fps = did't slowed down 
S-DNG    - L fps = did't slowed down 
                - H fps = did't slowed down 
This test is not 100% exact because I don't have equipment for that.

I also reseted the camera after the FW update and it worked much better...
What is found here that is that it depend on the SD card how the shutter works.
How many frames you can take before it slows down. As you see on the test that I performed
there is not much difference between 128Gb Kingston Canvas 300MB/s SDXC v90 and
64Gb Lexar Professional 150MB/s SDXC v60. But why on M-DNG and on M and H fps the 
Lexar performed better than Kingstone that is faster and better? Also what I noticed is that
when you delete the photos from the card the 128Gb Kingstone need few sec. for perhaps 15 frames.
The 64Gb Lexar need ca. half for the same amount of photos and 64Gb inside memory is so fast 
that you can't almost notice it. When you shoot a series of frames the M11 need longer to 
copy photos inside a 128Gb Kingstone, half of time for the 64Gb Lexar and is very fast for the 64Gb
inside memory. 

From now on I will shoot with my M11 like this:
no SD card inside, only on inside memory because it is enough big for the 60MP you can make 462 frames,
for 46MP size you can make 786 frames and for 18MP you get over 1K frames...
enough for mu needs... After the shoot is done I will transfer photos from the inside memory to the fast 
Kingstone Canvas SD cart because it is easier and faster for the import in Capture One Pro that I use.
Uf course there is also USB-C option for this... 

My opinion is that shooting without SD card inside , only with inside memory of the M11 I will get the best
performance with this camera... Sorry for such a long post, really... I thought this is very important for everybody
so I made this tests... 

Nikola




 

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4 hours ago, Eugene Young said:

I got my m11 firmware updated.

But shutter delay between shots still existed. Pressed shutter 3-4times and didn’t work. What shall I do to fix this problem?

Do not set Auto review to Off or Shutter Button. Works faster at 1s, 3s or 5s settings curiously. At least on my body.

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2 minutes ago, LEGEND said:

I will try this right away and report how it work...
Thank you very much... :D 

You are right...
With Auto review set to 1sec , 3sec or 5sec it really work faster as it suppose to do...
No “Hick-ups“ or similar... With the SD card inside and set to write on SD card first...
As I shote most of the time in Single mode I will use this from now on. Did't know that this works...
Really very strange... :D But for continuous shooting I will change the camera setting to write first 
on the inside memory because somehow the buffer clears faster, at least I think it does... :D 
Now I need to make me another user profile for the fast continuous shooting...

Everyday you can learn something new... 
Thank you again... ;)

Nikola

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I just tested the M11 with Auto review set to 1sec. and used continuous on Low and High,
on different DNG size and on these two card Kingstone and Lexar.
There is no difference for shooting on Low or High continuous mode, different DNG size,
those two SD cards but now with Auto review set to 1sec , 3sec or 5sec.
The results are the same as on my first test... Any way the shooting on the Single mode is 
now OK and faster and I am happy about this... :D 

Nikola

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vor 18 Stunden schrieb scott kirkpatrick:

Problem solved. I thought you should first connect to the camera, then download firmware. No, it’s firmware first, and the you are connected.  Don’t forget to upload profiles afterwards.

I updated via Fotos App and at the end the Profile and all other settings were still here (inkl. time and date)

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9 minutes ago, lct said:

Indeed and it works also fine in permanent mode apparently, don't ask me why. 

You know, it is Leica and they make everything different and mysterious... :D 

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3 minutes ago, Eugene Young said:

Thanks mr. photoworks. Resetting camera

indeed  resolves shutterlag problem.

It won't if you still set Auto review to Off or Shutter Button, in my practice at least. 

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On 5/27/2022 at 3:23 AM, lct said:

It won't if you still set Auto review to Off or Shutter Button, in my practice at least. 

Auto Review Off, LV Off, no shutter lag on my M11 (reset camera after update).

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22 minutes ago, lct said:

Hardly good then. Should behave the same way in RF and LV mode IMHO.

LV mode is a bit slower (more delay between shots) than RF mode. AFAIK, it used to be the other way around.

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12 minutes ago, SrMi said:

LV mode is a bit slower (more delay between shots) than RF mode. AFAIK, it used to be the other way around.

A bit or a lot slower make little sense to me with respect :cool:. For now, just setting Auto review to 1s, 2s, or 3s seems to solve the whole issue. I did not measure anything though.

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29 minutes ago, lct said:

A bit or a lot slower make little sense to me with respect :cool:. For now, just setting Auto review to 1s, 2s, or 3s seems to solve the whole issue. I did not measure anything though.

I see, and agreed.

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New firmware followed by full reset. 
After a long day of shooting in low drive / highlight protection setting, 4 frames in 2 separate sequence lost due to massive exposure (first frames ok then next in series blown out). 
Not bad, but In such an expensive camera (any camera), not acceptable.  
Those shots could have been crucial.
Of course, my Z7’s never have this problem.  
 

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vor 7 Stunden schrieb ck1:

New firmware followed by full reset. 
After a long day of shooting in low drive / highlight protection setting, 4 frames in 2 separate sequence lost due to massive exposure (first frames ok then next in series blown out). 
Not bad, but In such an expensive camera (any camera), not acceptable.  
Those shots could have been crucial.
Of course, my Z7’s never have this problem.  
 

Leica builds great cameras / hardware but they definitely need to improve their software department. Very disappointing if this negatively impacts such a technological master piece! Unfortunately seems to be not a one time topic, the software of my Q1 back in the days was also quite horrible. Had to send in the camera twice and got it replaced eventually without resolving the issue. They just were not able to find the configuration that caused the issue… my learning out of this is definitely to go for a M model that is close to its replacement as it is way more mature it you want to avoid all this…

nevertheless, still love the M11 with all of its flaws 😉 feeling a little bit like a beta tester and always a joy if a new firmware update is released!

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