PG Black nickel Posted May 24, 2022 Share #1 Posted May 24, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) In my collection I have a Leica III C grey # 3880XX with a red curtain. The lens is a summitar 364XXX with a grey lens cap (this lens cap doesn't seem to be painted but oxidized?). Inside was engraved a number (see picture) does anyone have an idea to what it corresponds! Thank you for your answer. Philippe Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/332763-leica-iii-c-grey-with-grey-lens-cap-and-red-curtain/?do=findComment&comment=4440871'>More sharing options...
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dubois pierre Posted May 24, 2022 Share #2 Posted May 24, 2022 Bonjour Philippe, à part que ce boîtier fait parti du deuxième lot livré comportant 3023 appareils sur un total de 3410; ces numéros gravés me laissent perplexe🤔. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitroplait Posted May 24, 2022 Share #3 Posted May 24, 2022 38 minutes ago, dubois pierre said: Bonjour Philippe, à part que ce boîtier fait parti du deuxième lot livré comportant 3023 appareils sur un total de 3410; ces numéros gravés me laissent perplexe🤔. Question in english, answer in french. Why? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Posted May 24, 2022 Share #4 Posted May 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, nitroplait said: Question in english, answer in french. Why? Why not 🙂 Hello Philippe, except that this box is part of the second batch delivered comprising 3023 devices out of a total of 3410; these engraved numbers leave me perplexed🤔. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitroplait Posted May 24, 2022 Share #5 Posted May 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, Matlock said: Why not 🙂 non inclusive - when OP wanted to communicate in english? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan mcfall Posted May 25, 2022 Share #6 Posted May 25, 2022 No idea on the number. But a nice "civilian" grey IIIc, interesting location for flash nipple addition. 364xxx is too early for summitar, maybe 564xxxx? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan mcfall Posted May 25, 2022 Share #7 Posted May 25, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Can you show the red curtain? Records show ending of red material at 379226, July 41. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG Black nickel Posted May 25, 2022 Author Share #8 Posted May 25, 2022 Correct Alan,it is 564xxx small typing error. The red curtain installation was normally stopped at #379226 which James Lager confirms in his book, but some IIICs, often grey, show this red curtain after #379226 ? after a return to the factory or repair by a dealer who only had red curtains ? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/332763-leica-iii-c-grey-with-grey-lens-cap-and-red-curtain/?do=findComment&comment=4441428'>More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 26, 2022 Share #9 Posted May 26, 2022 Slightly OT, but was there a reason for using red material? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted May 26, 2022 Share #10 Posted May 26, 2022 4 hours ago, jaapv said: Slightly OT, but was there a reason for using red material? Well, film was orthochromatic at the time, and if there was a chance of slight transmission through the curtain, red was a good choice. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrogallol Posted May 26, 2022 Share #11 Posted May 26, 2022 There is discussion elsewhere about the red curtain material and various reasons why it was used, shortage of normal black material. I understand the red material came from Kodak, possibly from Kodak stocks in Germany but I was told the other day that it came by submarine (U boat) from South America during the war in exchange for Rolleiflexes and Leicas? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted May 26, 2022 Share #12 Posted May 26, 2022 There is a theory on another camera forum that Leica's were sent to Japan by submarine during the war. There is also the story that a Tiger tank was transported in component form to Japan by submarine. There is perhaps a nugget of truth buried in all the stories that makes people think 'ah, it must have been delivered by submarine'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PG Black nickel Posted May 26, 2022 Author Share #13 Posted May 26, 2022 For me, the main reason is that the owner damaged his curtain he went to the dealer "Leica" on the corner. The salesman said to him; sorry! we don't receive any more spare parts from the Leica factory (war obliges) on the other hand if you want I still have some red curtains that we had received last year and that works very well in more they are less expensive. the guy said to him OK if you say to me that it is good we will do that... It is a simple scenario but so possible!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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