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@a.noctiluxthanks for asking. sooo the m6 is currently in amsterdam for a last attempt to get it fixed. either way i might sell it. got myself a brand new m-a and love it a lot. so that’s my current film camera. got very used to sunny 16 and generally always trying to guess correct exposure and then double check either using an app or an external meter. and that works surprisingly well. gonna post some pictures when i find the time. currently on a five week camper road trip through portugal. 

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family pic from when they were together. haha. the 50mm lanthar is on the way to japan for service. the focus ring got some issues after just a few months. so yes… quite some issues to deal with unfortunately. 

 

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Good move.

I've choosen M-A many years ago (2014), happy again when I fancy to use film, less and less but M-As never fell in the quite demanding job.

Still have two M6 around, my first one from 1985 still in use and one HM 0.85 when I need the x0.85 VF.

Most of time M6 used without battery for many years 😊.

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On 4/29/2022 at 3:27 PM, caffeineorme said:

So..  plot twist.. a little at least. We agreed on a partial refund. Cause i really fell in love with the camera. Reason for this might be the (low res) scans I received today from my first roll of film after about 20 years. Guess I can live without a light meter and negative film still is very forgiving. Shot on Kodak Ultramax 400.

Oh and addition to my previous post.. it's photo resistor not diode. Ha.

 

 

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It is definitely a silicon blue photodiode. I'm developing a replacement M6 light meter PCB. The original is quite old technology so I'm doing a complete redesign. It is unusual for a photodiode to fail but a common failure mode is that over the years the baffle may have been removed by service persons, quite often without bothering to desolder the wires from the PCB. Eventually the wire/s can get pulled off the photodiode. Often they can be reattached with a little microsurgery but not always.

 

I'm not sure of a direct replacement part. I doubt it can be replaced with a common, commercially available photodiode. I've been doing some experiments and I've found they fall a bit short on low light performance. Also, the characteristics of the pd would have to be identical to the original otherwise the meter just wouldn't be accurate. It is glued inside a small compartment behind a lens that is pointing towards the white dot.

 

At the same time  as replacing the PCB flex circuit and I'm planning to also replace the photodiode with a modern visible light spectrum specialist pd at the same time. The design process is well underway so all is not lost for the M6 classic. Redesigning this may seem relatively simple but I can assure you, to meet all the requirements, the design is a real challenge!

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2 hours ago, cameraworks said:

I'm developing a replacement M6 light meter PCB. The original is quite old technology so I'm doing a complete redesign.

It was great news to read that on your site a few weeks ago!

I wondered if you've had any direct communication with Leica about this? In a recent thread, another member of the forum  mentioned their post on Reddit about a factory tour, which contains an interesting claim:

'M6 Classic internal light meter: The MP light meter can’t be implemented in the M6 Classic. Leica is working on a solution! *hooray!*'

Brass replacement top plates also seem to have been made to replace those suffering from 'zinc rot'. If accurate, these claims suggest there may be some interest at Leica in continuing to support and fully repair the M6 (to my surprise at least).

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