colonel Posted March 18, 2022 Share #1 Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Just wondered what I would notice day to day I am primarily a stills shooter, and use prime lenses. I do use face detect a bit, especially for scene/street photography I love the SL to bits, and especially its design. What would be nice are if any of these are improved, although very good already: 1. More DR 2. Higher ISO quality 3. More control over face detect 4. Fast sensor read out for less banding with electronic shutter How much of this is realised with the SL2-s ? I like the colour science of the SL, and would like that to stay the same Any opinions very happily taken Edited March 18, 2022 by colonel Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hansvons Posted March 18, 2022 Share #2 Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) I can’t comment on the original SL, never shot with it. But I can say this about the SL-2S: sensitivity is best in class, colour is the reason why I bought into the system, and IBIS is phenomenal, especially if you shoot with manual glass. Never a camera without it again. In my opinion the best reason not to buy an M. EVF is phenomenal too. What you don‘t get: continuous AF simply isn’t up to the task. But face detection AF works nicely and rarely misses a shot, at least with the 24-90. Edited March 18, 2022 by hansvons 2 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michali Posted March 20, 2022 Share #3 Posted March 20, 2022 On 3/18/2022 at 5:25 PM, colonel said: Just wondered what I would notice day to day I am primarily a stills shooter, and use prime lenses. I do use face detect a bit, especially for scene/street photography I love the SL to bits, and especially its design. What would be nice are if any of these are improved, although very good already: 1. More DR 2. Higher ISO quality 3. More control over face detect 4. Fast sensor read out for less banding with electronic shutter How much of this is realised with the SL2-s ? I like the colour science of the SL, and would like that to stay the same Any opinions very happily taken In short, just about everything that you've listed. I moved from the SL to the SL2 & then added an SL2-S as back up. It's an outstanding camera, IQ is excellent & its high ISO performance is very good. Having been weaned on Kodachrome 25 for many years, I've seldom ventured above ISO 800 with digital. Since I acquired the SL2-S I've found myself using higher ISO settings when required, without giving this a 2nd thought. I think that I still prefer the colour rendering of the SL over both the SL2 & SL2-S, however this can be adjusted to taste in PP, the other advantages of the SL2-S outweigh this. You'll love the SL2-S. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted March 20, 2022 Share #4 Posted March 20, 2022 Issues 1-3 are all noticeably better; I would say face detect is 'better' (faster, more reliable), rather than that you 'have more control'. The electronic shutter still gives problems with certain lighting - you just have to try it in each case and see if the lighting is problematic. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcusick Posted March 20, 2022 Share #5 Posted March 20, 2022 Reid reviews shows about one stop of better lowmoight performance and dynamic range from the sl if that helps. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
52K Posted March 20, 2022 Share #6 Posted March 20, 2022 The SL2-S is a great upgrade to the SL601. They tweaked the colour science to make it more like the original SL than the SL2 and all the other things, plus a few new features.. It's a low-light monster, one of the best cameras I've ever used in this respect. If you're shooting an SL then you'll love the SL2-S. I shoot mine with M primes, SL primes and I have a couple of SL zooms as well. Check out Steve Huff's review of the SL2-S, he also came from using the SL which he loves. The images are just magical, they scream Leica just like my M's paired to M glass. I'm very very impressed. I use my SL for all my pro work and the M's mainly for personal projects. But... I do love using the SL as much as the M. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OR120 Posted March 20, 2022 Share #7 Posted March 20, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) You list your city as London. Why not go to your Leica Store - take a few primes and your own digital card - see if you can take one of their SL2-S's out for an hour. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coral Palm Posted March 21, 2022 Share #8 Posted March 21, 2022 52K, Steve Huff makes and possibly sells machines to talk with the dead 😳, that pretty much strips any possible credibility in my book! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted March 21, 2022 Share #9 Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 12:25 AM, colonel said: 1. More DR 2. Higher ISO quality definitely much much better but you might miss the 4 button layout..i know i do, especially as it was 4x2=8 [long press + short press] Oh Well... 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZN Posted March 21, 2022 Share #10 Posted March 21, 2022 … also the SL2-S doesn't have built in GPS 🤨 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Cato Posted March 21, 2022 Share #11 Posted March 21, 2022 electronic silent shutter works fine outdoors. banding if there are any artificial light sources though - so never use it indoors silently unless you are shooting strictly ambient with window light or similar. Great camera. colours & skin tones are epic. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted March 21, 2022 Share #12 Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 9:24 AM, rcusick said: Reid reviews shows about one stop of better low light performance and dynamic range from the sl if that helps. The SL and original Q are very old sensor tech by now. They have beautiful color at base ISO and if you don't raise the shadows too far. But the SL2-S is on a completely other level. One stop may be technically right, but when pushing files in post, the differences are huge, IMO. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robb Posted March 22, 2022 Share #13 Posted March 22, 2022 Sl2 viewfinder was much better to me than orig SL. Ibis is fantastic. Multishot is fantastic. Grip is better. those we’re easy reasons for me. Robb 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likaleica Posted March 25, 2022 Share #14 Posted March 25, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 11:10 PM, AZN said: … also the SL2-S doesn't have built in GPS 🤨 Didn't work very well on the SL anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZN Posted March 25, 2022 Share #15 Posted March 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Likaleica said: Didn't work very well on the SL anyway. Works fine for me… ~ 66% of the time. Which is much better than the SL2 or SL2-s or M11, where it is ~ 0% 😃 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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