a.noctilux Posted March 20, 2022 Share #21 Posted March 20, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) @LukaT had you figured out the mysteries ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LukaT Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share #22 Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 5:39 PM, a.noctilux said: @LukaT had you figured out the mysteries ? Hey, thanks for the concern. I had shot a roll for Tri-X on Sunday and developed it myself (first one). On 50mm lens everything is normal, there is no darkening like on the 35. I will have to do another roll with the 35 and develop it myself to determine weather the darkening was lab error or the problem persists on wider lenses. I will keep you posted In the meanwhile I attach a few shots from my first developed roll. I had a lot of dust issue, but nothing that spot healing brush cant fix Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 10 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/330696-m4-problem/?do=findComment&comment=4404888'>More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted March 21, 2022 Share #23 Posted March 21, 2022 Thanks for this update. The camera has nothing to do with the problems as I wrote, I think the lens in use neither. Contre-jour situations are challenging. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted March 21, 2022 Share #24 Posted March 21, 2022 2 hours ago, LukaT said: Hey, thanks for the concern. I had shot a roll for Tri-X on Sunday and developed it myself (first one). On 50mm lens everything is normal, there is no darkening like on the 35. I will have to do another roll with the 35 and develop it myself to determine weather the darkening was lab error or the problem persists on wider lenses. I will keep you posted In the meanwhile I attach a few shots from my first developed roll. I had a lot of dust issue, but nothing that spot healing brush cant fix Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Love the first pic! Great set. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukaT Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share #25 Posted March 29, 2022 A little update on the situation. I did a roll of portra 400 (developed it in another lab) and a roll of tri-x 400 (developed it myself). There was no darkening on a single photo. Which means it must have been processing error from the first lab that i had used. Thanks for helping me everyone I attach a few shots that I shot on Saturday. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/330696-m4-problem/?do=findComment&comment=4409140'>More sharing options...
matted Posted March 30, 2022 Share #26 Posted March 30, 2022 Glad to hear the problem is not with your camera. Lovely images! Enjoy your M4. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukaT Posted March 30, 2022 Author Share #27 Posted March 30, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, matted said: Glad to hear the problem is not with your camera. Lovely images! Enjoy your M4. Thanks, the experience of using M4 is awesome 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted March 30, 2022 Share #28 Posted March 30, 2022 I have just seen this shading issue with my Md-A, and remembered that I have seen this before with my Nikon F2 and D750. It is a combination of the lens used and the exact 'wrong' angle of light coming through. On this roll of film I just developed myself, it occurred on three shots out of 38 on the roll, using a Wtulens 17mm f16. With the Nikons it happened using a 40mm lens. Nothing wrong with the camera, or the lens. Just sometimes (rarely) this combo CAN create an issue. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin B Posted March 31, 2022 Share #29 Posted March 31, 2022 Exactly the same issue happened to me a while ago when developing my own negatives. I didn't fill the development tank high enough with fluid - the top part of all my film negatives was less well developed than the rest of negatives. It is likely that not enough developer came in touch with the upper part of the film reel. I never invert the tank and only rotate the reel - otherwise the film would have had likely more sufficient coverage with fluid. After I scanned the negatives, I simply cropped the upper part of the photo and a bit on the side to keep the ratio consistent. Also not ideal, but it worked out well. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted March 31, 2022 Share #30 Posted March 31, 2022 4 hours ago, Martin B said: Exactly the same issue happened to me a while ago when developing my own negatives. I didn't fill the development tank high enough with fluid - the top part of all my film negatives was less well developed than the rest of negatives. It is likely that not enough developer came in touch with the upper part of the film reel. I never invert the tank and only rotate the reel - otherwise the film would have had likely more sufficient coverage with fluid. After I scanned the negatives, I simply cropped the upper part of the photo and a bit on the side to keep the ratio consistent. Also not ideal, but it worked out well. That is the case if you see the shading on every image on the entire roll of film. When it is only a couple of images, it has nothing to do with developing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
till_he Posted April 26, 2022 Share #31 Posted April 26, 2022 Hi Luka! Wow, I was just scrolling through these channels and didn't expect to find the exact same problem that also occured to me in March - also with a M4. During a long weekend I shot three colour films (Fuji and Kodak) in my M4. Of course, I had them all developed at the same lab. I also got these random dark lines at the top of about 5 images per roll. The lens I used was the Voigtländer Color Skopar 35mm 2.5. My M4 looks good - I really hope, it is, like in your case, a developing issue. It's nice to read that I am not the only one facing this issue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukaT Posted April 27, 2022 Author Share #32 Posted April 27, 2022 14 hours ago, till_he said: Hi Luka! Wow, I was just scrolling through these channels and didn't expect to find the exact same problem that also occured to me in March - also with a M4. During a long weekend I shot three colour films (Fuji and Kodak) in my M4. Of course, I had them all developed at the same lab. I also got these random dark lines at the top of about 5 images per roll. The lens I used was the Voigtländer Color Skopar 35mm 2.5. My M4 looks good - I really hope, it is, like in your case, a developing issue. It's nice to read that I am not the only one facing this issue. Hi, I have developed about 10 bnw rolls myself since then and a few color at another lab. No issues Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmknoble Posted April 28, 2022 Share #33 Posted April 28, 2022 @LukaT, glad this got resolved. Note that many labs use large machines to develop negatives and they may go through a process as a long strip, not a wound strip in a tank. This means a problem in the machine can cause bad development on a few frames but not the whole role. Consistent development problems only show up on an entire roll when using a tank and reel. So glad it is not the camera! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
till_he Posted May 8, 2022 Share #34 Posted May 8, 2022 @LukaT - maybe this is interesting to you or someone else who reads this post: I have tried another film and have had it developed at another lab (same settings, same lens) - I got my scans back with these dark stripes again: Does anyone have another idea as it is not the lab obviously? Could it be the hood?🧐 I also thought about the problem maybe not being the dark stripe, but all the rest of the frames (light leak)? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/330696-m4-problem/?do=findComment&comment=4431740'>More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted May 8, 2022 Share #35 Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) Not light leak for sure maybe this ? @adan explained in a thread sensor or film though Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! see this thread also Edited May 8, 2022 by a.noctilux 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! see this thread also ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/330696-m4-problem/?do=findComment&comment=4431761'>More sharing options...
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