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Shooting into the sun - Lenses with flare resistance


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Hi All,

My current walk-around lenses are the 35mm Summicron ASPH and the 50mm APO.  I like to shoot into the sun a lot so the sun is very often in front of, or slightly to the side of, the lens. I find both of my walk-around lenses flare way too much. I purchased a separate hood for the 50mm but it's still not great. 

I've heard good things about the Zeiss Biogon 35mm 2.8 in that it's very resistant to flare, can anyone who owns one comment on this?

And is there a lens in the 50mm range that has a similar reputation? 

Thanks for your help,

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6 minutes ago, Stevejack said:

I like to shoot into the sun a lot

me too. A lot

6 minutes ago, Stevejack said:

I've heard good things about the Zeiss Biogon 35mm 2.8 in that it's very resistant to flare, can anyone who owns one comment on this?

This exactly the lens I was going to mention. It's VERY flare resistance

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1 hour ago, Stevejack said:

Thanks @Dennisthose images are great examples.  The 35mm Zeiss looks like the way to go!   Have you tried the 50mm as well, and does it have the same flare resistance?

I have only one 50, the Summicron v5. And it suffer a bit from veiling flare, but not ghost. No idea which 50 to recommend to you.

@lctI remember you too appreciate the Biogon for its flare resistance. Maybe you know about some 50mm to recommend...

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From personal experience, both Biogon 2/35 (and probably any Zeiss t* lens) as well as Ultron 35mm f1.7 are flare proof and give very sharp and defined sunstars if you’re into that stuff.

edit: Ultron being the VM version with the scalloped focus ring that everyone complains about.

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Hi, I only own (and use) 5 50mm M mount lenses. I tried to find out, how my latest acquisition the VOIGTLÄNDER  Apo-Lanthar 2/50 performed on my M9:

f 2:

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f8:

f 2:

f8:

 

These are the worst examples I found so far. I have not tried the flaring behavior of my other 50s explicitly. - The Summicron v5 shows some flaring and hazing.

So, I use it more on overcast days ...

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It`s even a matter of picture processing (as to me the classic Photoshop actual version). Using ACR I reduce the brightness minus 100 and readjust the darkness plus 100 in order to extend the dynamic range. After that I carefully adjust further details. It`s my way to get better pictures.

The added pictures are taken with my S3 plus Vario-Elmarit 30-90 mm and part of a HDAV-show (size 4500 x 3000 px).

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I'll try to avoid that but Elmarit-M 24mm F2.8 is fine to me.

And I like the Sunstar.

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9 hours ago, Dennis said:

@lctI remember you too appreciate the Biogon for its flare resistance. Maybe you know about some 50mm to recommend...

The Planar 50/2 has an excellent reputation. I have no experience with it though. Among my own lenses Summilux 50/1.4 asph and 50/1.4 pre-asph are well protected, Elmar-M  (not Elmar) 50/2.8 too. Summarit 50/2.5 also except that it can cause some nasty flare in special circumstances i.e. when the sun is outside the frame at 10:00 AM typically. 

Edit: I forgot the Sonnar 50/1.5 but it is prone to focus shift so i can hardly advise it to RF users. No problem in LV mode though.

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Hi, another one (M9 - ZEISS Sonnar 1,5/50 f 8  ) :

 

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(Maybe, I find something with my remaining 50s, too ... )

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi, I am no lens-tester, only a humble user. I found something of interest, perhaps ... (M9 - ZEISS Planar 2/50 f 2,8)

Sun position at 11:00, ooc :

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Brightness lifted :

 

The car in the shade, crop:

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Two pictures taken with M 10-R plus Vario-Elmarit-R 21-35 mm adapted.

 

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Hi, another one ... (M9 - ZEISS Sonnar 1,5/50 f 2,8)  :

Sun at position 11:30

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Sun at position 13:30

 

For me, lens flare is not a big problem. It is something one can - and has to - live with. When I got out, I take the one most likely to perform best.

The US car pics were taken on a sunny day. The day before, it was overcast, and so I took my Summicron v5 ... ---

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16 hours ago, jaeger said:

there is no one lens resist to flare, it's the angle that matters.  use live view to check or shoot that saves you a lot of troubles. 

Yes, exactly. 50 Lux ASPH is finicky with the sun just outside the frame. Just a slight change in angle will dramatically change the severity of flare. I also found the ZM 50/2 susceptible to veiling flare if a bright light is just outside or at the edge of the frame. Best 50 might be the VM APO.

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1688116/

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I totally agree with the Zeiss 35 f2.8 C-Biogon at f11, no UV/IR filter

from an M8, look at the texture in the snow

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M10 + Summaron M 28mm 5,6

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