Voigtlander 50mm f/2 APO vs Leica 50mm f/2 APO

[Olaf_ZG]

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The discussion is going on. Perceived value is subjective, but somehow not everybody accepts this.

As stated before, the 8k Leica is too much for me, I don’t see the value. Now I go one step further, the 1k VL is too much for me as well, I don’t see the value either. I don’t want the perfectness of APO, wouldn’t spend my money on it.

I prefer more the older kind of rendering and glow and here I see the value…

 

[Gobert]

Bringing a discussion about lenses back to the level rich-poor is completely irrelevant.

Anyway, I’m still very happy with the performance of my 50 APO’s.

[lct]

Poor Leica users forced to buy a $1,000 non Leica lens. Touching .

[Capuccino-Muffin]

Who is this GoPoseur guy?

[Huss]

34 minutes ago, Capuccino-Muffin said:

Who is this GoPoseur guy?

Apparently he is someone who is upset that people buy the Leica 50 APO?

[agfa100]

Let's throw something else into the fire and mix it up a little.

There is another apo 50mm lens the "Kern Macro Switar 50mm f 1.9"

Which Leica bought the company back around 1986, if you compare the lens design to the Leica APO Summicron it is very, very close. Could this have been the starting point? Now if I remember they purchased the company to gain their binocular sales for Switzerland, back then the Swiss had a law that Govt items had to be made in country and Leitz wanted the contract for the binocular sales. So it was easy to buy the company to gain the sales.

Just a thought.... Oh and yes the Kern Macro Switar does have issues with flare, but it was older glass and coatings.

 

Edited May 18, 2022 by agfa100
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[bags27]

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2 hours ago, Capuccino-Muffin said:

Who is this GoPoseur guy?

A future former member of the LUF.

[LUF Admin]

vor 5 Stunden schrieb bags27:

A future former member of the LUF.

A future former member of the LUF.

[LUF Admin]

A general request:

If you are suspicious that a member might be a troll or the reincarnation of a banned member, please report this!

We have the means to verify accounts and to step in early – if we are notified.

The later we can act, the more collateral damage was done. In this thread I had to delete a lot of posts reacting to the banned troll.

Andreas

[Ray Vonn]

4 hours ago, LUF Admin said:

A general request:

If you are suspicious that a member might be a troll or the reincarnation of a banned member, please report this!

We have the means to verify accounts and to step in early – if we are notified.

The later we can act, the more collateral damage was done. In this thread I had to delete a lot of posts reacting to the banned troll.

Andreas

Obviously one hopes there’s more to this than someone not liking the price of a Leica APO and preferring a Voigtlander.

[lct]

Haha the 14y old poster was laughing at me. Funny that after 40 years of pleading and teaching i may remain so naive about two things, children and women but this is another story . Thank you Andreas.

[MarkP]

On 5/18/2022 at 2:33 PM, Robert Blanko said:

Thus, what is the moral of the story when considering the recent posts?

Those lucky photographers who go for the Voigtländer APO save the equivalent of 70 toilet cleanings (to „clean their toilet with $100 bills“) and they may 70 times feel like „doctors and lawyers“… Boy,  oh boy!

I'm getting a bit sick of pejorative doctor and leica comments.
 

Edited May 19, 2022 by MarkP

[bags27]

8 hours ago, LUF Admin said:

A future former member of the LUF.

Thank you so very much, Andreas.

This thread holds great interest for me, and he completely disrupted the discussion, for no reason other than personal glee. I unsubscribed to it and have now resubscribed.

thank you for intervening so decisively!

[bags27]

2 hours ago, lct said:

Haha the 14y old poster was laughing at me. Funny that after 40 years of pleading and teaching i may remain so naive about two things, children and women but this is another story . Thank you Andreas.

I am a teacher of 40+ years experience as well. I admire many things about your knowledge of photography and contributions here. Perhaps most, I admire that you believed you could actually engage him constructively. I wish I had that quality!

[tightsqueez]

41 minutes ago, MarkP said:

I'm getting a bit sick of pejorative doctor and leica comments.
 

I agree. 
 

When I was putting myself through college on my own (not cheap!), I made huge sacrifices by saving money, working when I could, and eating lots of ramen to buy a Leica M6. Twenty-two years later it’s still working perfectly, never a hiccup since day one. 
 

And that’s saying a lot because this camera has endured over 1,000 days in a war zone! 
 

The camera is practically retired now, spending most of its days documenting my kids growing up, however the Leica ethos has not changed. 

[Robert Blanko]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb MarkP:

I'm getting a bit sick of pejorative doctor and leica comments.
 

Totally agree! 
 

As Andreas deleted the troll‘s post which I partially quoted (see the quotation marks), I have to clarify that I did not invent the doctor-Leica bashing but just replied to the troll‘s offensive post… Thus, my ironic post now lacks context.

[LUF Admin]

vor 47 Minuten schrieb Robert Blanko:

Thus, my ironic post now lacks context.

Please report your post with a short notice and we'll delete it too, if you wish.

BTW – I just banned another incarnation of the troll.

[lct]

2 hours ago, bags27 said:

I am a teacher of 40+ years experience as well. I admire many things about your knowledge of photography and contributions here. Perhaps most, I admire that you believed you could actually engage him constructively. [...]

Oh this is too kind of you thank you so much it goes right to my heart .

[stephan54]

vor 5 Stunden schrieb MarkP:

I'm getting a bit sick of pejorative doctor and leica comments.
 

Seious advice: Stay aeay from Dpreview. 

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[MarkP]

15 hours ago, Robert Blanko said:

Totally agree! 
 

As Andreas deleted the troll‘s post which I partially quoted (see the quotation marks), I have to clarify that I did not invent the doctor-Leica bashing but just replied to the troll‘s offensive post… Thus, my ironic post now lacks context.

...but I know the content 🙂