2436 Posted January 31, 2022 Share #1 Posted January 31, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Dear Leica fan girls and boys, I am an enthusiastic landscape photographer and bought the SL2 a good two years ago. I chose the Leica SL2 mainly because of its unique operation and excellent menus. Nevertheless, there are some features that I sorely miss on the SL2 and make taking pictures unnecessarily difficult. I’ve mailed the following firmware request to Leica. I hope they’re reading this forum too. What do you guys think of my suggestions and what do you wish for the firmware 4.0? 1. Bracketing 1.1. Unfortunately, you cannot currently combine automatic exposure bracketing with a self-timer on the SL2. This is very annoying as you are forced to either use a remote shutter release or the Leica app to get a shake-free shot. Both are often very time consuming. I therefore propose to integrate an option for a self-timer in the exposure bracketing menu - similar to the multi-shot mode. 1.2. Currently you can only choose between 3 and 5 shots for exposure bracketing. Due to the good dynamic range of the SL2, however, in most cases it is sufficient to take only 2 shots, e.g. a normally exposed shot and an underexposed shot for the highlights. It would be very nice to see Leica cameras offering more flexibility in the bracketing menu. 2. Aspect Ratio 2.1 It is currently not possible to assign the selection of the aspect ratio to any of the function buttons or the favorites menu. As a landscape photographer, I often change the aspect ratio and always have to search in the menu in a very cumbersome way. I therefore propose to integrate the aspect ratio option into the direct access menu of the Fn buttons and the favorites menu. 2.2 When it comes to selecting aspect ratios, I really miss the classic film formats 5:4 and 17:6 as well as the 2:1 format, which are particularly popular with landscape photographers. 2.3. Unfortunately, the aspect ratios in the selection are currently not sorted according to their ratio. I therefore suggest sorting them, starting with 1:1. 3. Auto Iso The auto-ISO function currently regulates the limiting shutter speed of the SL2 via the set focal length in a ratio of 1/(2*focal length). In my opinion, this ratio is too high due to the good image stabilization in the SL2 and leads to unnecessarily high ISO values and thus to increased image noise. I therefore suggest adding a second auto function that limits the exposure time according to the ratio 1/focal length (similar to the M11). 4. Depth of field preview Almost every professional camera on the market offers a depth of field preview according to the selected aperture, only the Leica SL2 does not. I imagine that Leica could put depth of field preview on the Fn buttons and then when you press the button, the lens stops down according to the chosen aperture. 3 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paul2660 Posted January 31, 2022 Share #2 Posted January 31, 2022 I would also like to see the self timer moved from a shooting mode, to a feature to be used with all shooting modes. The only mode that works in conjunction with self timer is the multishot mode. So I know Leica could easily enable for bracketing, where it's sorely missed. Depth of Field preview would be nice also. I was going to add AF-ON, but I finally figured out how to get that to work in M mode. Paul Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beewee Posted January 31, 2022 Share #3 Posted January 31, 2022 I’m still waiting for geotagging to work consistently and reliably with the FOTOs app. Aside from this, there are a few other changes that would be nice to have including: Increasing exposure time limit beyond 1s which is an electronic shutter limitation on the SL2 but not the SL2-S for multi-shot mode Further enhancing the geotagging capabilities such as allow FOTOs app to cache the last few hours of location data so that if the camera is disconnected from the app, once it reconnects, it has previous location data that can be used to retroactively geotag the photos taken by the camera. Making the SL2/SL2-S MFi certified so it can benefit from the tethering capabilities with the iPhone which was announced with the M11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
augustwest100 Posted January 31, 2022 Share #4 Posted January 31, 2022 4 hours ago, 2436 said: Dear Leica fan girls and boys, I am an enthusiastic landscape photographer and bought the SL2 a good two years ago. I chose the Leica SL2 mainly because of its unique operation and excellent menus. Nevertheless, there are some features that I sorely miss on the SL2 and make taking pictures unnecessarily difficult. I’ve mailed the following firmware request to Leica. I hope they’re reading this forum too. What do you guys think of my suggestions and what do you wish for the firmware 4.0? 1. Bracketing 1.1. Unfortunately, you cannot currently combine automatic exposure bracketing with a self-timer on the SL2. This is very annoying as you are forced to either use a remote shutter release or the Leica app to get a shake-free shot. Both are often very time consuming. I therefore propose to integrate an option for a self-timer in the exposure bracketing menu - similar to the multi-shot mode. 1.2. Currently you can only choose between 3 and 5 shots for exposure bracketing. Due to the good dynamic range of the SL2, however, in most cases it is sufficient to take only 2 shots, e.g. a normally exposed shot and an underexposed shot for the highlights. It would be very nice to see Leica cameras offering more flexibility in the bracketing menu. 2. Aspect Ratio 2.1 It is currently not possible to assign the selection of the aspect ratio to any of the function buttons or the favorites menu. As a landscape photographer, I often change the aspect ratio and always have to search in the menu in a very cumbersome way. I therefore propose to integrate the aspect ratio option into the direct access menu of the Fn buttons and the favorites menu. 2.2 When it comes to selecting aspect ratios, I really miss the classic film formats 5:4 and 17:6 as well as the 2:1 format, which are particularly popular with landscape photographers. 2.3. Unfortunately, the aspect ratios in the selection are currently not sorted according to their ratio. I therefore suggest sorting them, starting with 1:1. 3. Auto Iso The auto-ISO function currently regulates the limiting shutter speed of the SL2 via the set focal length in a ratio of 1/(2*focal length). In my opinion, this ratio is too high due to the good image stabilization in the SL2 and leads to unnecessarily high ISO values and thus to increased image noise. I therefore suggest adding a second auto function that limits the exposure time according to the ratio 1/focal length (similar to the M11). 4. Depth of field preview Almost every professional camera on the market offers a depth of field preview according to the selected aperture, only the Leica SL2 does not. I imagine that Leica could put depth of field preview on the Fn buttons and then when you press the button, the lens stops down according to the chosen aperture. +1. Would also be nice if we could assign the crop function to a button, or even to the favorites menu. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
threeseed Posted January 31, 2022 Share #5 Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) Auto ISO options from Sigma FP-L e.g. select minimum shutter from Auto, Auto (Faster), Auto (Slower), 1/100, 1/200 etc. Ability to select generic Lens Profiles to enable IBIS e.g. Generic 50mm Customisable Lens Profiles e.g. Vignetting +5 Customise quick menu buttons Option to sort the menus alphabetically Edited January 31, 2022 by threeseed 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virob Posted January 31, 2022 Share #6 Posted January 31, 2022 Better support for lenses with aperture rings. Instead of having aperture selection redundant on both the lens and thumbwheel when in A or M modes, allow the thumbwheel to be reassigned to another function. If I could select for aperture on the lens, shutter speed on the front wheel, exposure compensation on the thumbwheel and have auto ISO, I would be able to quickly adjust to most any situation. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarav Posted January 31, 2022 Share #7 Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) - Better R-Lenses profile (with some lenses corners are over corrected, ie: summicron-r 50) - Possibility to permanently turn off lens recogniction (in order not to have lens profile which often degrade picture) - Recognition of ROM-EXTENDER 2X and lens attached, actually it shows: Unknown Lens Edited January 31, 2022 by sarav Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumirebus Posted February 1, 2022 Share #8 Posted February 1, 2022 Is someone from Leica monitoring this thread/forum? and also Self timer shot. Such an expensive camera can only take one self timer shot at a time, it's very annoying when I have alot of people in the frame who would like to try different pose I have to constantly reach to the camera. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beewee Posted February 1, 2022 Share #9 Posted February 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, cumirebus said: Such an expensive camera can only take one self timer shot at a time, it's very annoying when I have alot of people in the frame who would like to try different pose I have to constantly reach to the camera. A simple hack is to use the intervalometer. You can set the delay you want and then have it take photos once every second for however many seconds you want. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Posted February 1, 2022 Share #10 Posted February 1, 2022 Are you sure about #3? My SL (601) supports 1/focal length with the current firmware and I can’t imagine why the SL2 firmware wouldn’t. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graeme_clarke Posted February 1, 2022 Share #11 Posted February 1, 2022 Focus stacking? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted February 1, 2022 Share #12 Posted February 1, 2022 22 hours ago, 2436 said: 2.2 When it comes to selecting aspect ratios, I really miss the classic film formats 5:4 and 17:6 as well as the 2:1 format, which are particularly popular with landscape photographers. Can you not use profiles? 14 hours ago, sarav said: - Possibility to permanently turn off lens recogniction (in order not to have lens profile which often degrade picture) it is called LENS PROFILE off 22 hours ago, 2436 said: The auto-ISO function currently regulates the limiting shutter speed of the SL2 via the set focal length in a ratio of 1/(2*focal length). In my opinion, this ratio is too high due to the good image stabilization in the SL2 and leads to unnecessarily high ISO values and thus to increased image noise. I therefore suggest adding a second auto function that limits the exposure time according to the ratio 1/focal length (similar to the M11). don't you the ISO setting the same in landscape bracketing? AUTO works well for me. The reason the M11 has 1/4* is the IBIS is not present. 22 hours ago, 2436 said: I therefore propose to integrate an option for a self-timer in the exposure bracketing menu - similar to the multi-shot mode. +1 17 hours ago, threeseed said: Ability to select generic Lens Profiles to enable IBIS e.g. Generic 50mm Customisable Lens Profiles e.g. Vignetting +5 Any lens profile you pick manual on M or R will only activate IBIS. If you are not using a Leica original M or R adapter with lenses that support it, no lens correction will be applied . Lens correction only apply if detected automatically from the camera. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
augustwest100 Posted February 1, 2022 Share #13 Posted February 1, 2022 9 hours ago, cumirebus said: Is someone from Leica monitoring this thread/forum? and also Self timer shot. Such an expensive camera can only take one self timer shot at a time, it's very annoying when I have alot of people in the frame who would like to try different pose I have to constantly reach to the camera. You can accomplish this using the interval drive mode, where you can control the timing on the first shot, how many shots you want to take, the time between shots. If this solves your issue, then credit should go to David and Josh at Leica Store Miami where I heard this tip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumirebus Posted February 1, 2022 Share #14 Posted February 1, 2022 @augustwest100 wow never thought of that! it makes sense, will try it out soon! thank you!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chun Chang Posted February 1, 2022 Share #15 Posted February 1, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 7:00 AM, 2436 said: 4. Depth of field preview Almost every professional camera on the market offers a depth of field preview according to the selected aperture, only the Leica SL2 does not. I imagine that Leica could put depth of field preview on the Fn buttons and then when you press the button, the lens stops down according to the chosen aperture. It is Leica position not to stop down so there you have it 😆 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarav Posted February 1, 2022 Share #16 Posted February 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Photoworks said: Can you not use profiles? it is called LENS PROFILE off I know that but it doesn't stay permanently off. Every time I switch lens with a ROM one, it automatically turn on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted February 1, 2022 Share #17 Posted February 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, sarav said: I know that but it doesn't stay permanently off. Every time I switch lens with a ROM one, it automatically turn on. you can cover the contacts with electrical tape or get an adapter with out contact on the cheep. You can also make a camera profile with lens profile OFF and that worked for me when I had different M lenses. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_hsn Posted February 1, 2022 Share #18 Posted February 1, 2022 - ProRes RAW support - More reliable AF-C for video - Faster wifi (probably not possible due to hardware limitations) 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
augustwest100 Posted February 1, 2022 Share #19 Posted February 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Chun Chang said: It is Leica position not to stop down so there you have it 😆 I was waiting for the conversation to devolve a little before making the suggestion that the red dot on the camera should be color changing LED so you can enter stealth mode when you don't want the red dot, and it would turn black. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarav Posted February 1, 2022 Share #20 Posted February 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Photoworks said: You can also make a camera profile with lens profile OFF and that worked for me when I had different M lenses. I'll give it a try, thank you! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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