Leica M11 processing

[Overgaard]

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Time to decide for processing route. Now that final profiles are ready, I made a comparison. I'll be doing a 16-bit TIFF print for myself and tell about it in a video or article later. 

My personal take at this stage is Capture One M11 profile. I also like the Film Shadow edition because it's muted and old school. In Lightroom I would go with he Default. Many details to look at; the textures, the ting of blue or lack thereof, how alive the surfaces look ... and more. I think you can click on it and see it larger. 

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[relms]

10 hours ago, Overgaard said:

Time to decide for processing route. Now that final profiles are ready, I made a comparison. I'll be doing a 16-bit TIFF print for myself and tell about it in a video or article later. 

My personal take at this stage is Capture One M11 profile. I also like the Film Shadow edition because it's muted and old school. In Lightroom I would go with he Default. Many details to look at; the textures, the ting of blue or lack thereof, how alive the surfaces look ... and more. I think you can click on it and see it larger. 

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Thorsten,

Thanks for posting these.  My eyes detect no difference between the Capture One Default and the Capture One M11 Neutral.   Are you seeing a difference in the two?

[Overgaard]

3 hours ago, relms said:

Thorsten,

Thanks for posting these.  My eyes detect no difference between the Capture One Default and the Capture One M11 Neutral.   Are you seeing a difference in the two?

They're close. Though, look at the bokeh and color of the bokeh. I'll show other comparisons later, with skin tones and natural daylight colors.

There is less shadow int he corners of the M11 profile (more shadow details), and other rather strange differences as the mirror where suddenly, with the M11 Profile, there is a reflcetion of details. When I saw it first, I thought it was two different files and something had reflected light onto the mirror in the second one. But no, it's the profile.

However, if one use Capture One, the profile is given, so no reason to worry, and the tests shows that the M11 Profile is an improvement. In Lightroom you have a choice, and there is a big difference. 

 

 

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[Hanno]

I understand from David Farkas in yesterday’s Red Dot Forum 2nd stream on the M11 that Adobe does not yet officially supports the M11 with a profile. They commented that while there is a profile labelled M11, it is embedded with the file and comes from the camera. They recommended using the default profile as per Thorsten’s preference.

[zeitz]

When I look through the Library of Profiles for Adobe on my hard drive, I do not find an M11 .dcp (digital camera profile) file yet.  It is nice that .dng includes an embedded profile.  The last update of Adobe photo software was January 19.  (In contrast, the Nikon Z9 .dcp was there in December before the production cameras started shipping.)

[Adam Bonn]

I can't find it on my hard drive either, but it is there somewhere!

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(It was definitely included in the dec 2021 release of dng converter)

I took it apart and (I'm not saying that adobe won't tweak it, but) it looks like a fully functioning finished adobe dcp file to me (contains CM/FM/HSD/LUT data just like all the other dcp files this side of about 2008 !!!)

(FYI note that 'adobe color' is a generic 3DLUT file that's not specific to any camera, literally it's the same file that get used again and again)

[SrMi]

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Currently, and with Lightroom, Leica (Jesko) recommends using Adobe Standard for high ISO shots, otherwise either the embedded M11 Profile or Adobe Standard.

I use Cobalt Standard or Cobalt Repro.