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Voigtländer Nokton 50 mm F1.0 asph. VM

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Just today I received a Nokton 50 mm F1.0 VM (https://www.voigtlaender.de/objektive/vm/50-mm-11-nokton/) for testing. The standard non meaningful testshots at home are looking very promising to me. Hello guest! Please register or sign in to view the hidden content. Hallo Gast! Du willst die Bilder sehen? Einfach registrieren oder anmelden!   Hello guest! Please register or sign in to view the hidden content. Hallo Gast! Du willst die Bilder sehen? Einfach registrieren oder anmel

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Hello guest! Please register or sign in to view the hidden content. Hallo Gast! Du willst die Bilder sehen? Einfach registrieren oder anmelden! Bored while waiting  No idea if edited and uploaded via iPhone is any good for giving an idea of image quality this lens is offering in poor light conditions. 🤷🏽‍♂️

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One final photo, something a little different but shows a messier background and also a mix of foreground and background layers. Called on my old sports photography skills with this, prefocussed and then hoped for the best.  M10R, F1, ISO100, 1/1500 This was around sunset - when you shoot something like this, you also remember how much light it pulls in and the upsides in IQ it gives you (assuming, of course, you can get it in focus!)   Hello guest! Please register or s

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    8 hours ago, Mefty said:

    Two with lenshood on. One on infinity one on close focus (0,9m). The other two same without lenshood. Sorry for the poor quality, took them at the breakfast table bread in the mouth, coffee in one hand and the other on the iPhone. 😂

     

    Thank you!!!

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      vor 8 Minuten schrieb Mefty:

      Looks more like the Nocti 0.95....?

      Nice soft bokeh; Was that f1.0 again? It would also be interesting to see a photo from a "full body portrait" distance...

      I would be interested in the exemption or the transition from sharp to blurred

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      vor 13 Minuten schrieb RalfK:

      Looks more like the Nocti 0.95....?

      Nice soft bokeh; Was that f1.0 again? It would also be interesting to see a photo from a "full body portrait" distance...

      I would be interested in the exemption or the transition from sharp to blurred

      All f1.0

      The „full body portrait“ will follow.

      need to find a nice body. 😂

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      vor 3 Stunden schrieb FrankX:

      What about focusing accuracy at different distances and focus shift? I am asking because the otherwise nice VL 75/1.5 seems to be way worse compared to my Lux 35 and 50 with FLE design.

      Works perfectly fine for me. No focus shift so far.

       

      vor 6 Minuten schrieb LarsHP:

      However, I do think we are seeing reverse field curvature here (on the right side of the image).

      Won't agree. There is nothing in focus except the orange wall on the left.

       

       

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        vor einer Stunde schrieb Mefty:

        Works perfectly fine for me. No focus shift so far.

         

        Won't agree. There is nothing in focus except the orange wall on the left.

         

         

        The first of the three is what I wanted to see. The exemption for a full-body portrait should correspond approximately to this. Looks nice...

        In the second photo, the focus doesn't seem to be quite right, but this certainly doesn't always work with f1. Since I would assume that the new Nokton can do better.


        All in all, I quite like what I see. Whether it can keep up with the 0.95 Nocti, I would not be able to say yet.

         

        (edit: sorry - the second one is sharp, too if clicked in. Seems to be the rendering of my browser)

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          In any case, the look seems closer to the Noct 0.95 than the older Nocti f1


          Forgive me if I keep making comparisons with the Leica counterparts in my head.
          But for me the lens is positioned right against the Noctis.
          They are my benchmark for this type of lens.

          In general I think that's a good thing.
          Voigtländer seems to have done a good job here again.

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            Mine has just arrived too. 

            Initial impressions.

            • Very well put together, I think Voigtlander have taken a step up over the last year in their production quality.
            • Focusing ring a little stiff (always find this at first with VM lenses though and they ease up a little) but once moving nicely dampened. Just over 90 degrees throw
            • Hood v nice indeed (finally, at last they include one!)
            • Aperture ring in half stops and really nice tactile clicks. I have to admit, I prefer this over Leica
            • Significantly lighter than the 0.95 and probably better balanced on a M body (personal opinion)
            • With hood, its the same length as the Nocti without hood extended

            From some very quick test shots (which I won't share as they're of a v messy room) - no obvious issues with focus accuracy, no shift that I could tell. Nice rendering, obvious CA, but testing against the Nocti,  that also showed it in the same situations. 

            Stuck in meetings for the rest of the afternoon so I suspect the light will have disappeared by the time I get camera back in hand again, but colour me impressed so far.

            I've attached 2 photos below for you to look at. Both at close focus distance - the 0.95 Noctilux vs the VM F1. Won't tell you which is which (largely as I can't remember right now) But no processing at all apart from to crop to make them look a little more equal. 

             

            (just editing this after posting: Please click in, however compression might not be making these look brilliant. I'd say that at full res, its a little harder to tell difference)

             

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              And 2 side by side shots (with an iPhone, so conscious angles, perspective etc might be slightly out). 

              However width broadly the same on these, however the widening hood on the Voigtlander is noticeable. I didn't look at length but viewfinder blockage as a result of that is actually similar to the longer Noctilux. I'll look properly over next few days. 

              (no comment on messy background please, my wife gives me enough of a hard time for the state of that room!)

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                1 hour ago, Mefty said:

                Won't agree. There is nothing in focus except the orange wall on the left.

                Well, if not reverse field curvature, then clearly less blur caused by something - perhaps optical vignetting.

                If you look at the degree of blur in the background of the mentioned image as well as the one here, you can see that there is obviously less blur in the side than in the center.

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                  vor 16 Minuten schrieb Tp2000:

                  ....Won't tell you which is which (largely as I can't remember right now) ...

                   

                  (... I'd say that at full res, its a little harder to tell difference)

                   

                   

                   

                  Excuse me: the difference between what...?
                  Or what have I overlooked?

                  Are these comparison photos with different lenses?
                  The difference really is minimal...

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                    vor 5 Minuten schrieb Tp2000:

                    And 2 side by side shots (with an iPhone, so conscious angles, perspective etc might be slightly out). 

                    However width broadly the same on these, however the widening hood on the Voigtlander is noticeable. I didn't look at length but viewfinder blockage as a result of that is actually similar to the longer Noctilux. I'll look properly over next few days. 

                    (no comment on messy background please, my wife gives me enough of a hard time for the state of that room!)

                    Oh, you were faster.
                    Now it becomes clear
                    thank you

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                      2 minutes ago, RalfK said:

                      Excuse me: the difference between what...?
                      Or what have I overlooked?

                      Are these comparison photos with different lenses?
                      The difference really is minimal...

                      Sorry was trying to type too quickly. One from the 0.95 and another from the VM 50mm F1.

                       

                      Have edited the post to be clearer, good spot!

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                      vor 10 Minuten schrieb LarsHP:

                      that there is obviously less blur in the side than in the center.

                      Actually? No, I can't or better: If there is, it is not visible to me or disturbing to my eye.

                       

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