Survey: Are you planning to buy the new Leica M11?

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On 1/14/2022 at 1:13 AM, mfiorentino said:

I tend to agree. Loosing the bottom plate cover is another step towards removing the uniqueness of the M series. Look at this beauty:

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It has been a war camera (although not while being with me) and has taken some beatings in its lifetime. It is built like a tank. This spells out "reliability". No-nonsense, stripped-down, high-quality, sturdiness are some of the keywords I have come to associate the M series with. I can't see the M11 being in the hands of a war-photographer or photojournalist…

most of us will never see combat, so....

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On 1/14/2022 at 6:39 AM, SiOnara said:

Same.  My M10D is my perfect digital M.  The M11D would be even more perfect! (if it still has the build in thumb rest)

...and a usb-c port!!

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[mfiorentino]

1 hour ago, archiea said:

most of us will never see combat, so....

Well, no. But that is not my point here. My point being Leica moving away from some fundamental design philosophies with the M. The black M11 is not even made of brass… Anyway…

[Chaemono]

vor 10 Stunden schrieb goodbokeh:

Chaemono, did you not fully read Kasson's test? The Nikon Z7 fully mechanical shutter was a disaster: "Don’t use the Z7 mechanical shutter unless you want shutter speeds faster than 1/2000." I need real tests from authoritative sources, Leica itself or a trusted source like Jim Kasson on the M11's mechanical shutter showing shutter shock is absent. Short of that the M11 will need to have a firmware upgrade to incorporate EFCS for me to purchase it. Posts here denying M11 mechanical shutter shock exists will not cut the mustard, not even close.

I did. He is using a long focal length only, 125 mm.

[Leicaiste]

Waiting for the M11-P (black paint if possible). 

[intermediatic]

Waiting patiently for my local Leica store (NOT a Leica store... I don't like buying from them as that is like purchasing from Amazon or B&H... it damages the remaining infrastructure of local camera stores) to get stock. I'm #1 on the list for a silver camera and have been on the list since before the announcement. It took a month to get my M10-R. 

[SrMi]

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5 hours ago, Chaemono said:

I did. He is using a long focal length only, 125 mm.

I cannot observe any shutter shock even at 135mm.

[Tailwagger]

See for yourself. 135 APO ISO 6400 1/180" Hand held at around 4 meters.

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[ravinj]

I will buy it as soon as I have spare cash. But first, need to save a bit more for retirement.  If I had the money, it is a no-brainer. In the meantime, I will live with the M10-R.

[raizans]

I voted other. I'd rather wait for the M11-P.

What variant are you waiting for? M11-D? M11 Monochrom? M11 budget model, if they still do that?

[lucerne]

15 hours ago, Artin said:

It looks like a lot of people are planning on buying the M11.. I have never seen so much Leica gear up for sale on Kijiji as I see today the local market is flooded with M gear right now 

It’s strange.  I just searched Kijiji and only found one M10-p. 

Also, there are very few M10s being offered in the UK.

 

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I will, but the M11-P, so I voted OTHER.

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[rivi1969]

On 1/17/2022 at 11:16 AM, rjans said:

+1 although I only have the M8. 

The M8 still is my favorite :))

[voyance]

I currently use an SL 601 mostly with my 50mm Lux-SL and Sigma 35mm f1.2 ART. Since getting my hands on an M adapter and a 35mm Summilux FLE, I've never touched my AF lenses again. I love the manual experience and the challenge of getting things right by myself. That said using this tiny 35mm-M lens is awkward on an SL for me. I now think an SL is too big even with an M lens because of the looks I get at the airport. This has made me consider selling my SL and L mount gear and jump ship to an M camera and invest in M lenses. 

Should I ditch my L-mount stuff for an M11? I can probably fund half or a bit more than half of an M11 if I were to sell my stuff. Of course, the downside is that I will be down to a single lens and will have to save up for more lenses. But 35mm focal length is the most useful for me. 

Anyone want to share their wisdom? (Do consider that I am far from a pro and only do this for fun.) 

[IkarusJohn]

18 minutes ago, voyance said:

I currently use an SL 601 mostly with my 50mm Lux-SL and Sigma 35mm f1.2 ART. Since getting my hands on an M adapter and a 35mm Summilux FLE, I've never touched my AF lenses again. I love the manual experience and the challenge of getting things right by myself. That said using this tiny 35mm-M lens is awkward on an SL for me. I now think an SL is too big even with an M lens because of the looks I get at the airport. This has made me consider selling my SL and L mount gear and jump ship to an M camera and invest in M lenses. 

Should I ditch my L-mount stuff for an M11? I can probably fund half or a bit more than half of an M11 if I were to sell my stuff. Of course, the downside is that I will be down to a single lens and will have to save up for more lenses. But 35mm focal length is the most useful for me. 

Anyone want to share their wisdom? (Do consider that I am far from a pro and only do this for fun.) 

I ditched my SL primes, and the 16-35 & 90-280 zooms, to concentrate on my M system.  I kept my 24-90 zoom, and use my larger M lenses on the SL with an adapter when required.  My M system remains my first choice.

Why keep the SL? Three reasons - it’s rugged and weather sealed; zooms; and telephotos.  And it’s a very good camera.

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3 hours ago, voyance said:

I currently use an SL 601 mostly with my 50mm Lux-SL and Sigma 35mm f1.2 ART. Since getting my hands on an M adapter and a 35mm Summilux FLE, I've never touched my AF lenses again. I love the manual experience and the challenge of getting things right by myself. That said using this tiny 35mm-M lens is awkward on an SL for me. I now think an SL is too big even with an M lens because of the looks I get at the airport. This has made me consider selling my SL and L mount gear and jump ship to an M camera and invest in M lenses. 

Should I ditch my L-mount stuff for an M11? I can probably fund half or a bit more than half of an M11 if I were to sell my stuff. Of course, the downside is that I will be down to a single lens and will have to save up for more lenses. But 35mm focal length is the most useful for me. 

Anyone want to share their wisdom? (Do consider that I am far from a pro and only do this for fun.) 

I'm  actually selling all my SL gear and going with the M and TL2 systems which I already have.  Will add the M11 for now, then M12 . . .  etc down the road.  The TL2 will be for travel and will be even more compact and lighter with autofocus as a plus.

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20 hours ago, voyance said:

I currently use an SL 601 mostly with my 50mm Lux-SL and Sigma 35mm f1.2 ART. Since getting my hands on an M adapter and a 35mm Summilux FLE, I've never touched my AF lenses again. I love the manual experience and the challenge of getting things right by myself. That said using this tiny 35mm-M lens is awkward on an SL for me. I now think an SL is too big even with an M lens because of the looks I get at the airport. This has made me consider selling my SL and L mount gear and jump ship to an M camera and invest in M lenses. 

Should I ditch my L-mount stuff for an M11? I can probably fund half or a bit more than half of an M11 if I were to sell my stuff. Of course, the downside is that I will be down to a single lens and will have to save up for more lenses. But 35mm focal length is the most useful for me. 

Anyone want to share their wisdom? (Do consider that I am far from a pro and only do this for fun.) 

The L system is awesome. You might feel that a small 35mm on the SL is awkward, but it works, doesn't it? And there is a slew of other M lenses that people use on their SLs and SL2s.You can use M lenses on SLs, but not the other way around. The tough thing about the M system is the mounting costs. The new M APO lenses that can take advantage of the new sensors are at nosebleed levels (which isn't to say they aren't worth it).

[Stephen.s1]

To answer the Question,  I'm waiting for the M 12.. with an EVF.   The pleasure of doing manual focusing with an electronic viewfinder cannot be beat.    Find another German word beginning with M that will convey manual focusing and keep building the M series.

I'm as proficient with the use of the RF as anyone.  But after owning and using a XT4 and GFX100  I'll give up my excellent M10-P the minute Leica has the cajones to squeeze an EVF into that frame.  I'd even give them a pass for no image stabilization.

For those who haven't tried this, borrow a Fujifilm XT4 or it's ilk, you'll be hooked.

[SrMi]

1 hour ago, Stephen.s1 said:

To answer the Question,  I'm waiting for the M 12.. with an EVF.   The pleasure of doing manual focusing with an electronic viewfinder cannot be beat.    Find another German word beginning with M that will convey manual focusing and keep building the M series.

I'm as proficient with the use of the RF as anyone.  But after owning and using a XT4 and GFX100  I'll give up my excellent M10-P the minute Leica has the cajones to squeeze an EVF into that frame.  I'd even give them a pass for no image stabilization.

For those who haven't tried this, borrow a Fujifilm XT4 or it's ilk, you'll be hooked.

I own X-T4, I am not hooked at all :). I much prefer Pentax K3-III with OVF. Different cameras appeal to different people. As long as the rangefinder line is preserved, I do not care which additional model Leica adds to its product line. I can find a replacement for any of the current Leica cameras, except for the rangefinders.

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There’s no way in hell I’m switching my 10R to an M11. No thanks.
 

If you gave me an M11, I would sell it sealed in the box and use the money for lenses.