trequartista Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share #21 Posted January 13, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Honestly, I don't care to take 1-2 spare batteries more but anyway I only use the EVF in situations where I feel like the optical viewfinder is too slow or cumbersome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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focusbyhand Posted January 13, 2022 Share #22 Posted January 13, 2022 This is from a Leica FAQ document and is disappointing for M10, M10-P, M10-R users: “Does the M11 Visoflex 2 work on the M10? Yes, but this requires a camera FW update. This is expected to be available in mid-March. The M10 will then be able to run the Visoflex 2, but only at the 2.4 megapixel resolution available in the M10. This will result in a slightly smaller viewfinder image in comparison to the use at the M11.” 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
intermediatic Posted January 13, 2022 Share #23 Posted January 13, 2022 Sad that it’s so much less attractive than the old Visoflex. Well I only need one until the M11 monochrome appears. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trequartista Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share #24 Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, focusbyhand said: This is from a Leica FAQ document and is disappointing for M10, M10-P, M10-R users: “Does the M11 Visoflex 2 work on the M10? Yes, but this requires a camera FW update. This is expected to be available in mid-March. The M10 will then be able to run the Visoflex 2, but only at the 2.4 megapixel resolution available in the M10. This will result in a slightly smaller viewfinder image in comparison to the use at the M11.” That's sad news, but as long the refresh rate is better it's still an upgrade I guess. And it's an OLED-display, so. But then it really seems to be the one from the Leica Q2. It has the exact same specs. Edited January 13, 2022 by trequartista Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 13, 2022 Share #25 Posted January 13, 2022 3 hours ago, wolan said: Yes with the current version. The new one will be even more power hungry You don't know until it has been tested. Jono's M11 review indicates that it does not use the battery that much. It would be great if Leica implements an EVF extended mode for Visoflex 2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted January 13, 2022 Share #26 Posted January 13, 2022 Camera Compatibility M11 M10 (with future firmware update; only 2.4MP viewing resolution available) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted January 13, 2022 Share #27 Posted January 13, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 19 minutes ago, Photoworks said: M10 (with future firmware update; only 2.4MP viewing resolution available) Does this mean ALL of the M10 cameras, including the original, that hasn't had any firmware updates in like forever? I suspect I might be better off using my current Visoflex, which includes the GPS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egrossman Posted January 13, 2022 Share #28 Posted January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, MikeMyers said: Does this mean ALL of the M10 cameras, including the original, that hasn't had any firmware updates in like forever? I suspect I might be better off using my current Visoflex, which includes the GPS. This is what I want to know. Will it work with the M10D? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueIn2Red Posted January 13, 2022 Share #29 Posted January 13, 2022 According to the Leica UK store website, yes. All M10s. The lower resolution/smaller image thing is a killer for me though, very disappointing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLeicaM Posted January 13, 2022 Share #30 Posted January 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, egrossman said: This is what I want to know. Will it work with the M10D? Will it work with the M10-P ASC 100? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egrossman Posted January 13, 2022 Share #31 Posted January 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, BlueIn2Red said: According to the Leica UK store website, yes. All M10s. The lower resolution/smaller image thing is a killer for me though, very disappointing. I must have missed this. The new Visoflex will be cropped and operate at a lower resolution on M10s? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueIn2Red Posted January 13, 2022 Share #32 Posted January 13, 2022 Apparently yes. See the quote in post 22 above from a Leica FAQ. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueIn2Red Posted January 13, 2022 Share #33 Posted January 13, 2022 If that is true by the way, it’s poor that online stores (even the official Leica one) aren’t stating that - I’ve cancelled my order before dispatch thankfully. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egrossman Posted January 13, 2022 Share #34 Posted January 13, 2022 16 minutes ago, BlueIn2Red said: Apparently yes. See the quote in post 22 above from a Leica FAQ. Given that the existing Visoflex operates at 2.4MP, does anyone know what benefit (if any) the new Visoflex 2 brings to the M10 if it runs at a cropped 2.4MP on the older cameras? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueIn2Red Posted January 13, 2022 Share #35 Posted January 13, 2022 It’s OLED (so better contrast/dynamic range) and has a better refresh rate I believe. Not enough of a benefit for me to upgrade from my 020. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crem Posted January 13, 2022 Share #36 Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) Sounds like this is what we should expect on the M10 vs M11 assuming I did my math right... M11: 2356 x 1571 M10: 1897 x 1265 So roughly a 20% crop? That seems pretty bad unless the display is physically larger to compensate. I'm hoping that's the case! Edited January 13, 2022 by Crem Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueIn2Red Posted January 13, 2022 Share #37 Posted January 13, 2022 3.7 to 2.4 is worse than that I think? My maths is bad too though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musotographer Posted January 13, 2022 Share #38 Posted January 13, 2022 For me the most annoying aspect of the current Visoflex on my M10M is that it blocks the exposure dial. It's hard to tell from the pics if the new one will also do that on the M10 cameras - but it looks to me as though it will.... ☹️ I hope I'm wrong, but this looks disappointing all round for M10 owners. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted January 13, 2022 Share #39 Posted January 13, 2022 Well, I'm thinking now might be a good time to pick up a used 020 for the rare times I might need one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
waigx Posted January 13, 2022 Share #40 Posted January 13, 2022 Does the VisoFlex 2 come with built-in GPS as type 020? I don't see that in online store production page. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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