Leica Standard Model E vs. Leica I Model C

[doctorlebel]

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I picked up a Leica Black Enamel s/n 325363 which according to cameraquest lists it as a Leica I built in 1939.

I don’t have a picture to share yet, but the rewind knob is the taller version found on the Leica Standard.

Without seeing a picture, is it safe to say that it’s actually a Leica Standard?  
 

 

 

[romanus53]

AFAIK the "basic" Leica I was named Standard when the Leica II with rangefinder was introduced but some customers still wanted a cheaper alternative.

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[Pyrogallol]

Strange, in the Leica Pocket Book it is listed as a model 1. Could that be a mistake? as the Standard came out in 1932. If it has the extendable rewind knob and is from 1939 I would say it is a Standard.

[Ambro51]

The E is a Standard and it is a Model 1..(it’s just names)

[zeitz]

13 minutes ago, Ambro51 said:

(it’s just names

It's a Leitz/Leica tradition - M8, M8.2, M9, M240, M262, M246, M 127, etc, M10 and all the permutations of M, A, D, E and P that you can create.

[UliWer]

2 hours ago, Ambro51 said:

The E is a Standard and it is a Model 1..(it’s just names)

You are right that it's just names, but the "Standard" was never named "Leica I" by Leitz. Before the "Leica Modell II" was introduced, it was just the "Leica". Since the introduction of the "II" the simple model without rangefinder was called "Standard". Only in hindsight - especially for upgrades - the models built before the introduction of the "II" were called "Leica I".

[willeica]

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On 1/4/2022 at 3:08 PM, doctorlebel said:

I picked up a Leica Black Enamel s/n 325363 which according to cameraquest lists it as a Leica I built in 1939.

I don’t have a picture to share yet, but the rewind knob is the taller version found on the Leica Standard.

Without seeing a picture, is it safe to say that it’s actually a Leica Standard?  
 

 

 

Can you send a photo of the camera? It is almost certainly a Standard, which is in the I line. The Standard is a standardised I with an extendable rewind knob.  The I designation was re-introduced after WWII with the Ic and the If.

William 

[doctorlebel]

Thanks everyone for your help. It’s on its way to me. 

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[Ambro51]

Rangefinder is backwards

[oldwino]

3 hours ago, Ambro51 said:

Rangefinder is backwards

So you'll know exactly where you've been...

[willeica]

On 1/13/2022 at 9:34 PM, doctorlebel said:

Thanks everyone for your help. It’s on its way to me. 

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It is a Standard.

William 

[Ambro51]

7 hours ago, oldwino said:

So you'll know exactly where you've been...

....and exactly how far from it.  

[doctorlebel]

Thanks for confirming it’s a Standard.  One my workbench right now being clad. Several pieces of broken film trapped in the gearing, shutter crate, and curtain assembly.  It’s sounds very nice now without these obstructions interfering with things.

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[rfaspen]

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[d30gaijin]

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