pippy Posted December 15, 2021 Share #61 Posted December 15, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) I do like the short physical length and this bit from the official spiel suggests not too much vignetting wide-open; ..."We have created a generous image circle that supports the full-frame format"... Interesting lens for sure. Philip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cboy Posted December 15, 2021 Share #62 Posted December 15, 2021 If this lens is has a sharp out of focus falloff and 3dlike rendering as I expect it will be then all I'd need is to lap on a promist on this bad boy just to take off the edge and it'll be winner winner chicken dinner hahaha! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Photon42 Posted December 16, 2021 Share #63 Posted December 16, 2021 On 12/14/2021 at 1:35 PM, LarsHP said: I have three. Two smart adapters with AF (Techart and Megadap) and one dumb with close focus helicoid (Gabale). The reason why I am "whining" about the minimum focus distance is that (I expect) it tells us that at shorter distances, the performance will drop below a threshold that the engineers think is acceptable. To me, it is disappointing considering the floating lens element design. Yes, it sure will, if they did not opt for compensating measures - but closing the aperture by a stop or two should take care of that. Today with all the YT experts breathing down the necks of the idiot product designers, companies are careful what to release. Especially at a price point like that. I use the close focus adapter from Voigtländer with the old 1.1/50 Nokton with the Z7 sometimes, just to get this little bit closer. Honestly, in my aging eyes, the quality does not drop so much. That lens got for too much flak, btw. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarsHP Posted December 16, 2021 Share #64 Posted December 16, 2021 7 hours ago, Photon42 said: Yes, it sure will, if they did not opt for compensating measures - but closing the aperture by a stop or two should take care of that. Today with all the YT experts breathing down the necks of the idiot product designers, companies are careful what to release. Especially at a price point like that. I use the close focus adapter from Voigtländer with the old 1.1/50 Nokton with the Z7 sometimes, just to get this little bit closer. Honestly, in my aging eyes, the quality does not drop so much. That lens got for too much flak, btw. Stopping down isn't an option to me. This chubby lens needs to be shot wide open. Otherwise, I could just keep my Nokton f/1.2 (which I really love, so I might actually do that anyway). However, I have a (not so secret) spice, I can add to the sauce: my Tokina AT-X +0.4 achromatic diopter (a "close-up filter" consisting of two lens elements). It has 72mm thread, which means it may work well even wide open with the f/1 Nokton (which has a 62mm thread). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted December 16, 2021 Share #65 Posted December 16, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 11:00 PM, -ph- said: There is a short video about this lens, they show it on the M, though unfortunately not very close up: That video reminds me of Fanny Cradock's cookery programme in the 1950's & 60's. Must have been the same scriptwriter. Anyhow, I can make room for this new Nokton 50mm f1. The CV train is a runaway! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robb Posted December 17, 2021 Share #66 Posted December 17, 2021 I successfully preordered the lens this morning from Stephen Gandy at CameraQuest. Delivery for January 2022. I am excited to use this on my SL2 and SL2-S. Robb 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon42 Posted December 17, 2021 Share #67 Posted December 17, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 16 hours ago, LarsHP said: Stopping down isn't an option to me. This chubby lens needs to be shot wide open. Otherwise, I could just keep my Nokton f/1.2 (which I really love, so I might actually do that anyway). However, I have a (not so secret) spice, I can add to the sauce: my Tokina AT-X +0.4 achromatic diopter (a "close-up filter" consisting of two lens elements). It has 72mm thread, which means it may work well even wide open with the f/1 Nokton (which has a 62mm thread). An high quality apochromatic diopter is in my eyes the better option, optically. It keeps the lens within its specs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberti Posted December 17, 2021 Share #68 Posted December 17, 2021 How about the 'Achromatic Diopter 1.8 - 77mm Achromatic Diopter 1.8'? Crazy wide in comparison with a thread of 77mm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6bit Posted December 18, 2021 Share #69 Posted December 18, 2021 I’m in on this lens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6bit Posted December 19, 2021 Share #70 Posted December 19, 2021 Is this the most expensive Voigtlander lens to date? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarsHP Posted December 19, 2021 Share #71 Posted December 19, 2021 On 12/17/2021 at 8:47 AM, Photon42 said: An high quality apochromatic diopter is in my eyes the better option, optically. It keeps the lens within its specs. As far as I know, there is only one made - which was sold together with the 100mm Apo-Macro-Elmarit-R. I just discovered that the NiSi Close-Up lens is labeled as apochromatic even though it only uses two lens elements. As far as I know, an apochromatic lens design needs at least three lens elements to accomplish it (but I may be wrong). Another issue is the diopter strength. It appears to be +5, which may be fine for macro or semi-macro use, but for the intended use (focusing a bit closer than 90cm) it is way too strong. If it was an +1 diopter, it would have been about perfect. The Tokina AT-X MC +0.4 diopter 72mm close-up lens is one of the best on the market. Things that are in focus shows no chromatic aberrations. To make my point, this diopter clearly improves the performance of my 90mm Apo-Summicron-M even at about 2 meter distance. However, the out of focus areas does show color fringing (but so does the 90 Apo). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon42 Posted December 19, 2021 Share #72 Posted December 19, 2021 Canon used to produce the 250D and 500D. And Leica sells one for M-Lenses. And there are more, as you discovered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted December 19, 2021 Share #73 Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Photon42 said: Canon used to produce the 250D and 500D. And Leica sells one for M-Lenses. And there are more, as you discovered. I bookmarked a quite complete listing, here (ki.tng.de) a rich chart, if we want to search for one or more. I use for years Nikon 3T (52mm) and 6T(62mm)on Leica lenses with adapters to bring 52/62 to Leica diameters. Edited December 19, 2021 by a.noctilux 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Brown Posted December 19, 2021 Share #74 Posted December 19, 2021 3 hours ago, 6bit said: Is this the most expensive Voigtlander lens to date? It is not officially priced yet (on B&H) but the price seems to be 1799$, so it beats the current champ Voigtlander Super Nokton 29mm f/0.8 Aspherical Lens for Micro Four Thirds priced at 1749$. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarsHP Posted December 19, 2021 Share #75 Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Photon42 said: Canon used to produce the 250D and 500D. And Leica sells one for M-Lenses. And there are more, as you discovered. Yes. I have Leitz Elpro 1, 2, 3 and 4 (from the film era), and a Canon 250D too (in 52mm). However, those are all achromatic diopters, not apochromatic, and they are all too small. I am considering buying a Canon 500D in 77mm size since I saw one used locally, and it will pair well with another lens I already own, and it might work with the Nokton f/1.0 too. Otherwise, I have been checking out this site: http://fuzzcraft.com/achromats.html Edited December 19, 2021 by LarsHP Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaeger Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share #76 Posted December 20, 2021 18 hours ago, Al Brown said: It is not officially priced yet (on B&H) but the price seems to be 1799$, so it beats the current champ Voigtlander Super Nokton 29mm f/0.8 Aspherical Lens for Micro Four Thirds priced at 1749$. I thought it was around 1k USD, at 1.8K I will consider nikon 50mm 1.2s for my Z7 instead. Or maybe the 85mm 1.2s that is coming soon. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldwino Posted December 20, 2021 Share #77 Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, jaeger said: I thought it was around 1k USD, at 1.8K I will consider nikon 50mm 1.2s for my Z7 instead. Or maybe the 85mm 1.2s that is coming soon. A 1100g, 150mm long lens vs 484g and 55mm length. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6bit Posted December 20, 2021 Share #78 Posted December 20, 2021 1 hour ago, jaeger said: I thought it was around 1k USD, at 1.8K I will consider nikon 50mm 1.2s for my Z7 instead. Or maybe the 85mm 1.2s that is coming soon. https://shop.cameraquest.com/voigtlander-leica-mount-lenses/voigtlander-50mm-f/1.0-leica-m-nokton-asph/ $1799 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarsHP Posted December 20, 2021 Share #79 Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, oldwino said: A 1100g, 150mm long lens vs 484g and 55mm length. Right. The Z Nikkor f/1.2 and Nokton f/1.0 are quite different beasts. If autofocus is needed, get the first. If size and weight are important, forget it and get the second. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted December 20, 2021 Share #80 Posted December 20, 2021 If Cosina have a 28mm or 24mm f1.4 in the pipeline, either one would make a nice low light/shallow dof duo with the new 50mm f1. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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