Voigtlander 50mm f/1 VM

[M Street Photographer]

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vor 1 Stunde schrieb Adam Bonn:

Does DXO support the CV 50/1?

Sorry I checked, no they don't.

The daughter/cat photo is ticked under Perspective.

You're also right about the bike tires with the LR profile, a little egg-shaped. But I think it's only a little noticeable because you now look very closely with the test eye.

I'm sorry that you've gotten into an increased test mode because of me. That was not intentional. You know how I think, just take pictures and it's good. Although I also advocate knowing the pros and cons in order to use it profitably .It's completely normal to use a new lens for the first time. But you're right here too, after 1,500 photos it's time to go back to normal. We have some that we enjoy. One of them is 1.0, but now is the time to stop neglecting the others.

I will also take up your idea and also take some distance from 1.0.But we don't want to forget that it brought you to LFI, and that with a new lens, which again speaks for itself: If someone can do it, then the hardware doesn't matter.

Luckily I don't have GAS anymore. Which doesn't mean that I don't look a LEICA APO-Summicron-M 2.0/50mm ASPH. or LEICA APO Summicron-M 2/35mm ASPH. look. But the other eye also looks at my bank account. And then of course there is still the question of which trips and workshops I can do if I keep looking.
And as my first long-distance trip, I have made a note of Porto 😁

 

Edited February 15, 2023 by M Street Photographer

[hdmesa]

Do not use other lens profiles with the CV 50 f/1, there is no need to. Just manually correct for what you think needs correcting. Most of the time distortion has little effect on the image unless you're shooting architecture or the horizon.

[Adam Bonn]

49 minutes ago, M Street Photographer said:

Sorry I checked, no they don't.

The daughter/cat photo is ticked under Perspective.

You're also right about the bike tires with the LR profile, a little egg-shaped. But I think it's only a little noticeable because you now look very closely with the test eye.

I'm sorry that you've gotten into an increased test mode because of me. That was not intentional. You know how I think, just take pictures and it's good. Although I also advocate knowing the pros and cons in order to use it profitably .It's completely normal to use a new lens for the first time. But you're right here too, after 1,500 photos it's time to go back to normal. We have some that we enjoy. One of them is 1.0, but now is the time to stop neglecting the others.

I will also take up your idea and also take some distance from 1.0.But we don't want to forget that it brought you to LFI, and that with a new lens, which again speaks for itself: If someone can do it, then the hardware doesn't matter.

Luckily I don't have GAS anymore. Which doesn't mean that I don't look a LEICA APO-Summicron-M 2.0/50mm ASPH. or LEICA APO Summicron-M 2/35mm ASPH. look. But the other eye also looks at my bank account. And then of course there is still the question of which trips and workshops I can do if I keep looking.
And as my first long-distance trip, I have made a note of Porto 😁

 

I was testing it anyway, but really my ‘mistake’ is to test it in real life scenarios, which is noble until something seems a bit weird, then one tends to wish the testing was more controlled!

Typically I shoot around f4 so it’s been fun and it’s reminiscent of when I got my 7a suddenly changing my style and shooting shallow dof all the time.

I got into LFI at f8 before now 😅

well at least you and other folks got to see some different sides to northern Portugal

I’m not over with the lens or anything like that.. just time to mix it up a bit and not be all about the shallow dof the whole time

[RexGig0]

23 hours ago, Adam Bonn said:

don't normally share family snaps... but what the hell (also low light)

 

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Whatever the technical optical imperfections may be, this is an absolutely lovely image.

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vor 37 Minuten schrieb Adam Bonn:

...I’m not over with the lens or anything like that.. just time to mix it up a bit and not be all about the shallow dof the whole time

I think with a small gap you're not so focused on the test results.
Even if it goes further, the 50 1.0 is to be seen in its entirety and in relation to the existing equipment. In this consideration some things would be put into perspective.

In the end you will find something with all lenses, especially those who search meticulously. The question then remains whether the result can be tolerated at the price. What I've seen of you and me and some other recordings so far tells me that it's good, my expectations have been fulfilled.

But now I'm going to go out again with my beloved Canon 50mm 0.95, it was already crying 😭  because I preferred the VC. 

PS: And then when the VC cries, I'll leave both at home and go out with my RX 1 RII and enjoy the wonderful Sonnar 35 2.0. 🤭

Edited February 15, 2023 by M Street Photographer

[Adam Bonn]

11 hours ago, RexGig0 said:

Whatever the technical optical imperfections may be, this is an absolutely lovely image.

thank you very much, it's a scene I see frequently 😅 but the shallow DOF certainly adds some visual interest IMO

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11 hours ago, M Street Photographer said:

I think with a small gap you're not so focused on the test results.
Even if it goes further, the 50 1.0 is to be seen in its entirety and in relation to the existing equipment. In this consideration some things would be put into perspective.

In the end you will find something with all lenses, especially those who search meticulously. The question then remains whether the result can be tolerated at the price. What I've seen of you and me and some other recordings so far tells me that it's good, my expectations have been fulfilled.

But now I'm going to go out again with my beloved Canon 50mm 0.95, it was already crying 😭  because I preferred the VC. 

PS: And then when the VC cries, I'll leave both at home and go out with my RX 1 RII and enjoy the wonderful Sonnar 35 2.0. 🤭

I'm not at all disappointed in the lens, the opposite really - I personally think the performance is really strong for this type of optic. Viewed in isolation it could be said that the IQ of other lenses is much better and that for the cost (the CV50/1 is only 'cheap' in Leica-land I think..) one could spend less and have more.. but the Fred Miranda comparisons against the Noctilux and the TTa 0.95 really show the positives IMHO.. Sure it's a stack more cash than the TTa, but it outperforms it whilst being smaller and lighter, and it's a ton of money less than a Noctilux, whilst being smaller and lighter and holding it's own (or even surpassing it in some areas) optically.

I can't congratulate Voigtlander enough about this.... in my opinion these days the CV lenses (eg their APOs) are not far from the Leica ones in IQ but they're bigger (much bigger with the CV 35APO) and you sort of justify that with the price. But the CV50/1 is competitive on size and weight too. That's an achievement in my book.

It's probably just me.... but I can sometimes feel I'm cheating myself if I don't use a fast lens to make shallow DOF photos. I need to not think like this... it's dumb, different scenes and photo opportunities warrant different aperture settings and now that I feel I've spent enough time wide open with it, it's time to use it like a lens should be used, with what ever depth of field that's required to realise the photo and just be happy that the 50/1 offers the <1.4 for when I need it.

and I think I was quite burnt out anyway!! 1500 pics in 18 days is quite a lot... (that's in two countries and with two camera bodies as well) and I guess folks reading this and seeing the shots are realising that I actually left the house and went places to make photos, very few photos I've shared are of things round my house.. (I mean I do have those if anyone wants to see? 😂) I feel I've given the lens a good workout in my real life usage case. I've walked a lot of kilometres to do all of this, last night I fell asleep before 22:00 and woke up at 09:00 (and today I feel rested and want to go out shooting again!!)

I'm happy with the lens, I was expecting the FC and me playing about with coding and profiles from other lenses is nothing to judge this lens about (just me).

But equally I can't be one of those photographers that shoots everything shallow DOF style (and NO OFFENCE intended to anyone who is) it wouldn't work for me... well not without devoting time to trying to find my own style within an aperture setting.

So my choice (and I own three 50s now...) is merely which fifty I want to use on any given day... and let's be honest, they all do F8, but only one does F1 so the CV is a great tool to have. (Probably more so on the M9 tbh, which would really benefit for the low light boost of F1)

[Adam Bonn]

OK.... I'm going to dump a batch of CV50/1 photos here.

Most are wide open... some not. Maybe one or two are from the M9.

I've done these as screen grabs so that I can fit more per post... a couple of times I've included a 100% crop in case it's of interest...

I'm hoping that this will give anyone perusing this thread with a view to do I want this lens or not at least a sense of what it renders like.

nope can't fit them all on one post!

OK (sorry for anything I've shared already)

 

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Photographing as openly as possible is a stylistic device. I'm not one of the permanent 1.0 shooters either.
From that point of view, it's good that we have it, whether it's during the day when it suits the subject, or whether it's at night when we need light intensity.
The only thing I've neglected is the B&W effect with the VC. But that will happen automatically in the future.

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and lastly, the NOT wide open ones!

 

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Yes, let's show some more here, it will surely help others to like it.

PS: Oh wonder we got some sun today. Maybe I can go outside too. The only question that remains is which lens to use. 🤔

Edited February 16, 2023 by M Street Photographer

[Adam Bonn]

3 minutes ago, M Street Photographer said:

Photographing as openly as possible is a stylistic device. I'm not one of the permanent 1.0 shooters either.
 

Some folks really make that style work for them and I admire their photos

Personally I just don't the eye for that.

[M Street Photographer]

As a stylistic device it is also completely ok. But many always think: Now I have a 1.4, 1.2, 1.0 lens and now these people always have to photograph everything as open as possible and that is not the case.

PS: Well, I'll do some things now and see if I can find some time to take pictures.

Edited February 16, 2023 by M Street Photographer

[Adam Bonn]

7 minutes ago, M Street Photographer said:

Yes, let's show some more here, it will surely help others to like it.

I think between the superb Miranda review (thank goodness that guy doesn't use his right to remain silent 😂. ahem Sorry) all the YT vids and the genuine honest irl photo samples on this thread (and no doubt other forums) there's plenty of info for people to decide if this fast fifty is right for them.

 

Edited February 16, 2023 by Adam Bonn

[M Street Photographer]

For the first assessment, tests like those of Miranda are important. But to be honest, I like it much more to see example photos from practitioners and photographers and then form my own judgement. And that's for our 50 1.0 , positive.

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Another CV 50/1 photo that I like as a photo in it's own right rather than as a test shot or all about the DOF (obv OMWV)

Why the **** it didn't occur to me to post this on the 14th I've no clue 😅

[M Street Photographer]

Good composition, it's a Noctilux  🤭 photo, so you didn't have it on 2/14. shown.

when I came out after my appointment - rain - that was it, no photos.😭

[Adam Bonn]

45 minutes ago, M Street Photographer said:

when I came out after my appointment - rain - that was it, no photos.😭

always the way 🙄

 

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