M Street Photographer Posted January 29, 2023 Share #301 Â Posted January 29, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well, well Adam, don't be so pessimistic please. Get to know it first, but keep an eye on the exchange time. It's well adjusted, it's often a bit tricky to focus openly. But with the Visoflex, or the 1.4 viewfinder magnifier, it is very accurate, with little waste. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Adam Bonn Posted January 29, 2023 Share #302  Posted January 29, 2023 14 minutes ago, M Street Photographer said: Well, well Adam, don't be so pessimistic please. Get to know it first, but keep an eye on the exchange time. It's well adjusted, it's often a bit tricky to focus openly. But with the Visoflex, or the 1.4 viewfinder magnifier, it is very accurate, with little waste. I’m not seeing anything too scary with it… I still have some reservations about the feeling in the focus ring, but the RF calibration seems fine and I’m not noticing anything terrible in the brick wall tests Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Street Photographer Posted January 29, 2023 Share #303  Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) I prefer the slightly muted focus ring to being too light. I think it's a little getting used to. Another tip: If you focus openly in the close-up range, start from the infinity position. Edited January 29, 2023 by M Street Photographer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01maciel Posted January 29, 2023 Share #304  Posted January 29, 2023 I have just found a photo in my archive from a day when the sun was shining. It seems like a long time ago. It's nice to see the colours and the pleasant bokeh here. The three leaves are sharp as a tack The results of a CV Nokton are much more predictable than my Noctilux f1. However, every now and then the Noctilux takes incomparably beautiful shots that you can't compare with anything else. The three leaves in the middle are sharp as a tack, at least on my computer monitor. It seems that the forum software makes each photo sometimes more, sometimes less blurred. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/327343-voigtlander-50mm-f1-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4663192'>More sharing options...
M Street Photographer Posted January 29, 2023 Share #305 Â Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) vor 23 Minuten schrieb 01maciel: ...The results of a CV Nokton are much more predictable than my Noctilux f1. However, every now and then the Noctilux takes incomparably beautiful shots that you can't compare with anything else. The three leaves in the middle are sharp as a tack, at least on my computer monitor. It seems that the forum software makes each photo sometimes more, sometimes less blurred. Yes, I see the leaves clearly too. Also mourn for the sun. For weeks we have only had gray in gray here, cloudy, rain, little snow, cold wind and the days are short, it gets dark around 4 p.m. And we're enjoying our photos from last year. Even if the focal length and aperture of lenses are the same, each has its own characteristics, advantages and disadvantages. I owned the Canon 50 0.95 TV before I bought the VC 50 1.0. The glow wide open is unique to canon, wide open the sharpness of the VC is better. The coloring of both is very different and depending on what I want to photograph and how, I choose one or the other. I really enjoy it and the photography is exciting. Unfortunately, I can hardly show any photos of both here, as I photographed with Sony until October and have yet to really get to know my M10 R. But hopefully that will change soon. Edited January 29, 2023 by M Street Photographer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted January 29, 2023 Share #306  Posted January 29, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! It doesn't feel as big as it looks and pairs nicely with the handgrip.... still I think I'll be taking a nod from the Jewish faith and endeavour as much as possible to go hoodless with it 😅  Third time was the ****ing charm with getting the sharpie coding to 1st work at all, then not be a summarit 75/2.4 😅 If I did this more than about 4 times in the past 3 years I'd make an effort to get a template done...    3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! It doesn't feel as big as it looks and pairs nicely with the handgrip.... still I think I'll be taking a nod from the Jewish faith and endeavour as much as possible to go hoodless with it 😅  Third time was the ****ing charm with getting the sharpie coding to 1st work at all, then not be a summarit 75/2.4 😅 If I did this more than about 4 times in the past 3 years I'd make an effort to get a template done...    ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/327343-voigtlander-50mm-f1-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4663209'>More sharing options...
M Street Photographer Posted January 29, 2023 Share #307  Posted January 29, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) The included sun visor isn't that bad either, it's 2 cm deep. I need them so I don't put my clumsy hands on the glass. At the latest when I take the camera out of my pocket. Maybe I'm a little old nerd after all. 🤠Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted January 29, 2023 Share #308  Posted January 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, M Street Photographer said: The included sun visor isn't that bad either, it's 2 cm deep. I need them so I don't put my clumsy hands on the glass. At the latest when I take the camera out of my pocket. Maybe I'm a little old nerd after all. 🤠yeah the dome of the FE in the centre is REALLY close to exceeding the edge of the lens... maybe the hood might be a safer option, certainly doesn't add a lot of bulk to carry reversed on the lens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted January 29, 2023 Share #309  Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) see new post below   Edited January 29, 2023 by Adam Bonn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Street Photographer Posted January 29, 2023 Share #310  Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) Here's a comparison: Canon 50mm 0.95 1964 and VC 50 1.0 When the Canon is mounted, it is a challenge to press the lens release button. I don't have little fingers. But mostly with the little finger. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  Sorry for the bad phone quality and the fingerprints on the camera! Edited January 29, 2023 by M Street Photographer 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  Sorry for the bad phone quality and the fingerprints on the camera! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/327343-voigtlander-50mm-f1-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4663240'>More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted January 29, 2023 Share #311  Posted January 29, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!   Lightroom Noctilux F0.95 profile Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!   Lightroom Noctilux F0.95 profile ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/327343-voigtlander-50mm-f1-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4663241'>More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted January 29, 2023 Share #312 Â Posted January 29, 2023 dunno what wrong with my post above? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted January 29, 2023 Share #313  Posted January 29, 2023 OK No profile (left) vs noctilux profile (same photo duplicated) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/327343-voigtlander-50mm-f1-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4663252'>More sharing options...
M Street Photographer Posted January 29, 2023 Share #314 Â Posted January 29, 2023 Please Adam, don't lapse into the test phase with bricks. If you should have laboratory conditions, among others, tripod radio trigger, ideal lighting conditions, etc. Just take your normal shots and anything you don't see doesn't exist. Technical perfection kills the art, the emotions and the inspiration. and then there is the threat that images that are perfectly aligned can also appear boring. Only the small mistakes, your handwriting, make it who and how you are. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Street Photographer Posted January 29, 2023 Share #315  Posted January 29, 2023 vor 4 Minuten schrieb Adam Bonn: OK No profile (left) vs noctilux profile (same photo duplicated) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Yes the one on the right looks good with the profile. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Bonn Posted January 29, 2023 Share #316 Â Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, M Street Photographer said: Please Adam, don't lapse into the test phase with bricks. If you should have laboratory conditions, among others, tripod radio trigger, ideal lighting conditions, etc. Just take your normal shots and anything you don't see doesn't exist. Technical perfection kills the art, the emotions and the inspiration. and then there is the threat that images that are perfectly aligned can also appear boring. Only the small mistakes, your handwriting, make it who and how you are. I'm not really technical enough to do proper tests, the brick wall was just to see the profiles and also to test (quick and dirty) for being MASSIVELY de-centred (you shoot the same thing twice, but once with the camera upside down and compare the 2 images) Â 12 minutes ago, M Street Photographer said: Yes the one on the right looks good with the profile. I thought so too, and after messing about sharpie coding it, the camera now thinks it's a 0.95 'lux, so LR auto applies that profile when I import images. edit and oh yeah I think you're right the focus ring just takes some getting used too, people complain the same thing on 50 summilux asph, but mine's had a CLA so it feels great so I'm a bit spoilt by that lens I think.. Plus not to be inflammatory what CV is doing for the money is great, but one can't expect the exact tactile experience as the higher end Leica glass IMHO Edited January 29, 2023 by Adam Bonn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Street Photographer Posted January 29, 2023 Share #317  Posted January 29, 2023 @Adam Bonn , Of course there has to be a difference to Leica. The only question is how serious is this and are you willing to go with the compromise in relation to the price. One must not forget how old the bill of a 50 0.95 is and how up-to-date that of the VC 50 1.0 is. The differences are rather small there. And we also want to have and see character. I also think that the VC has its strength in the close-up - portrait and the whole thing in B&W. As I said, we are very limited here due to the weather and so I'm looking forward to it when the sun shines and the people and nature become a little more colourful. Then the big hour of my new lenses comes to see their color capabilities.  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted January 29, 2023 Share #318  Posted January 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Adam Bonn said: well based on a sample of 6 shots at around 1 to 2 meters, I'm as accurate with the EVF and magnification as I am with the RF, so I guess that's ok after a brick wall test 🙄 I'm far less convinced about this statement now... The DOF is so insanely thin, it's almost impossible to focus with the EVF much less the rangefinder when handholding – because your body/hands will move slightly between focus and capture. I always take two or three shots at f/1 to get one perfect one.  2 hours ago, M Street Photographer said: Well, at f 8 there might be a bit of diffraction blur. Rarely do I go above 5.6 No objectionalble diffraction blur until f/16. There's a huge jump in diffraction between f/11 and f/16. Probably f/5.6 is ideal for both sharpness and contrast, but f/8 doesn't look much different to me. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted January 29, 2023 Share #319  Posted January 29, 2023 31 minutes ago, Adam Bonn said: OK No profile (left) vs noctilux profile (same photo duplicated) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I wouldn't code this lens at all because the vignette and distortion add to the character, but if you do, use the Noct f/1, which I find a much better match. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted January 29, 2023 Share #320 Â Posted January 29, 2023 31 minutes ago, M Street Photographer said: Please Adam, don't lapse into the test phase with bricks. If you should have laboratory conditions, among others, tripod radio trigger, ideal lighting conditions, etc. Just take your normal shots and anything you don't see doesn't exist. Technical perfection kills the art, the emotions and the inspiration. and then there is the threat that images that are perfectly aligned can also appear boring. Only the small mistakes, your handwriting, make it who and how you are. Agreed. But you do want to test this lens for decenting/tilt. At infinity stopped down for landscape, it sucks to have one or more corners softer than the others. And although this an f/1 lens, it's extremely capable for landscape, so don't overlook that testing right out of the box. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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