LarsHP Posted October 6, 2022 Share #201  Posted October 6, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks for sharing your test. I certainly think the field curvature of your Nokton f/1 appears mild. It looks distinctively different from the sample Fred Miranda had (or has?). To me, this clearly suggests that sample variation is at play here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LarsHP Posted October 6, 2022 Share #202  Posted October 6, 2022 17 hours ago, robb said: Well I love mine.  I don’t seem to have that issue. Robb Not to ruin your joy using this lens, but images you have shared in this thread have obvious signs of reverse field curvature. I am thinking of the one from Lake Tahoe and the two vertical B&W images from Hawaii. The decrease in background blur away from the center looks just like Fred Miranda has shown. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robb Posted October 6, 2022 Share #203  Posted October 6, 2022 So what are you going to get instead? What I should have said was I don’t notice any issue… or I don’t see why that is a problem if there.  Most of my favorite images and use is closer than their noted zone… lol Robb 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarsHP Posted October 6, 2022 Share #204  Posted October 6, 2022 4 hours ago, robb said: So what are you going to get instead? What I should have said was I don’t notice any issue… or I don’t see why that is a problem if there.  Most of my favorite images and use is closer than their noted zone… lol Robb One day, I might change my mind and get the Nokton f/1, but as it is, I have the Nokton 50mm f/1.2 which isn't perfect either. It is a very good compromise between speed and size, and works well as an all round lens. I really love the separation you get at f/1 in the central part in above the mentioned images. However, since the field curvature bends as it does, which in most cases will be particularly problematic at medium focus distances, where the f/1 aperture otherwise shines, I have decided that I am not getting something else. Of course, the field curvature will in some situations enhance the amount of perceived blur, if the point of focus is in the outer mid-frame, while the background is in the center. Having that in mind, you can use this characteristic as a creative tool when using that lens. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandokan Posted October 6, 2022 Share #205  Posted October 6, 2022 Lars, you seem to know what you like, dont like and what you want to see in a lens in terms of its technical abilities. I think the VM50/1.0 is not the lens for you, as even when you have it, you will find something you dont like  I think it is good to be of a strong opinion, even if I do not share it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robb Posted October 8, 2022 Popular Post Share #206  Posted October 8, 2022 Great lens.  Project manager in Jersey City, New Jersey - Leica SL2 with Voigtländer Nokton VM 50mm 1.0 Aspherical MC, iso 200, 1/60th sec at f 1.0 Robb Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 20 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/327343-voigtlander-50mm-f1-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4527290'>More sharing options...
robb Posted October 8, 2022 Share #207  Posted October 8, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) I loved the separation of all the players... and I wasn't worried about good or bad field curvature at all.    But it's all good if you guys find it a problem.  I'll take a look at the SL summilux again but that lens felt a bit heavy and harder to manual focus.  I could see a use for it but the 50 1.0 just seems nice in many ways.  I am not the fastest to focus it I'll admit but I'm ok slowing down as I get older.  I definitely approach things differently than when I shot my first image 35 years ago. Path Station platform in Jersey City, New Jersey - Leica SL2 with Voigtländer Nokton VM 50mm 1.0 Aspherical MC, iso 320, 1/60th sec at f 1.0 Robb  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/327343-voigtlander-50mm-f1-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4527320'>More sharing options...
01maciel Posted October 12, 2022 Share #208  Posted October 12, 2022 The lens is not as bad as some reviews on the internet tell us. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10 + Voigtländer Nokton 50mm 1:1.0 VM 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10 + Voigtländer Nokton 50mm 1:1.0 VM ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/327343-voigtlander-50mm-f1-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4531059'>More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted October 13, 2022 Share #209 Â Posted October 13, 2022 On 10/5/2022 at 8:35 AM, Jared said: ...He mentioned that curvature was worst at 2-4m and his testing was at 4m. Mine was at 2m. ... He said FC is worse at mid-distance to infinity, which I can verify having used mine on the M11: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1741370/21#16061971 I have never seen any unacceptably distracting bokeh related to FC with this lens for how I shoot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarsHP Posted October 13, 2022 Share #210 Â Posted October 13, 2022 6 hours ago, hdmesa said: He said FC is worse at mid-distance to infinity, which I can verify having used mine on the M11: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1741370/21#16061971 I have never seen any unacceptably distracting bokeh related to FC with this lens for how I shoot. His own test here contradicts what he says in that reply to me. In that test, he kept the framing and then did a focus bracketing series from 1.5 to 7 meters, and it shows that the field curvature gets progressively flatter at longer focus distances. He even confirms is it in his comment: "Notice how the field curvature flattens from close distance towards long distance on the Leica M10-R ... " In this image at infinity, the plane of focus appears to be flat. So, perhaps Fred forgot his otherwise well-done field curvature tests? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdmesa Posted October 13, 2022 Share #211  Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, LarsHP said: His own test here contradicts what he says in that reply to me. In that test, he kept the framing and then did a focus bracketing series from 1.5 to 7 meters, and it shows that the field curvature gets progressively flatter at longer focus distances. He even confirms is it in his comment: "Notice how the field curvature flattens from close distance towards long distance on the Leica M10-R ... " In this image at infinity, the plane of focus appears to be flat. So, perhaps Fred forgot his otherwise well-done field curvature tests? Could be. Or could be how the M10-R works with this lens versus the M11. I sold my M11 due to too many lenses not having flat field at infinity compared to the SL2-S in multi-shot high res mode. Even the CV 50 APO was weaker at midframe on my M11 compared to the SL2-S and what I had gotten in the past on the M10-R. Even if it was just an issue with my specific copy of the M11 at infinity, the FC at closer distances with the 50 f/1 wide open never once gave me an image that I thought was ruined by sharper bokeh toward the edges or excessive swirl. — To elaborate a bit more about FC at infinity with this lens on the M11: at f/1, the center 1/3 of the frame was ridiculously sharp with expected smooth falloff of sharpness toward the edges. Stopping down induced wave FC that gave sharper center and edges than midframe. Stopped down to f/8 to f/11 would improve flatness enough to be usable for landscape, but it was definitely not optimal. — Edited October 13, 2022 by hdmesa 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosophos Posted October 16, 2022 Share #212  Posted October 16, 2022 On 10/7/2022 at 10:03 PM, robb said: Great lens.  Project manager in Jersey City, New Jersey - Leica SL2 with Voigtländer Nokton VM 50mm 1.0 Aspherical MC, iso 200, 1/60th sec at f 1.0 Robb Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! This is one of the *very few* images I've seen with this lens that looks great. Well done, Sir! —Peter. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01maciel Posted October 16, 2022 Share #213  Posted October 16, 2022 Wide open landscape shot wide open. The cattle herd ignored me while shooting as they know it makes no sense to shoot wide open. Anyway, this is for demonstration purpose only - but imho not too bad as it stretches the distance between far and close objects and ultimately lets the foreground appear larger. Click the image to get more details. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!  ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/327343-voigtlander-50mm-f1-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4536062'>More sharing options...
01maciel Posted October 17, 2022 Share #214  Posted October 17, 2022 Tête-à -tête Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/327343-voigtlander-50mm-f1-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4537075'>More sharing options...
M Street Photographer Posted October 17, 2022 Share #215  Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) sorry Mistake  Edited October 17, 2022 by M Street Photographer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01maciel Posted October 19, 2022 Share #216  Posted October 19, 2022 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10 + Voigtländer Nokton 50mm 1:1.0 VM 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M10 + Voigtländer Nokton 50mm 1:1.0 VM ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/327343-voigtlander-50mm-f1-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4538975'>More sharing options...
01maciel Posted October 21, 2022 Share #217  Posted October 21, 2022 (edited) Draught beer, drought Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 21, 2022 by 01maciel 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/327343-voigtlander-50mm-f1-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4540857'>More sharing options...
01maciel Posted October 22, 2022 Share #218  Posted October 22, 2022 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/327343-voigtlander-50mm-f1-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4542161'>More sharing options...
01maciel Posted October 29, 2022 Share #219  Posted October 29, 2022 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/327343-voigtlander-50mm-f1-vm/?do=findComment&comment=4549178'>More sharing options...
wojtek_87 Posted November 15, 2022 Share #220  Posted November 15, 2022 On 10/8/2022 at 3:03 AM, robb said: Great lens.  Project manager in Jersey City, New Jersey - Leica SL2 with Voigtländer Nokton VM 50mm 1.0 Aspherical MC, iso 200, 1/60th sec at f 1.0 Robb Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Nice shot! Can you take a picture showing the finder blockage, please? I am thinking about a nice rendering 50mm for portraits and it's a tough decision... (would be a good combination of fast aperture and character so taking into account f1.5-0.95 lenses with reasonable budget where this Voigtlander will be rather from higher price end) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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