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Hello, I recently bought a Leica M summicron 35 IV, and only now I realised that is a bit loos in the front part. How I can disassemble the lens and fix it? I am good fixing small things, but I can't find a proper video to unscrew the two elements. Do have I to use my fingers in the plastic inner part close to the lensand try to unscrew that? It seems to rotate. In a video with APSH model I saw that they used a special tube wrench, but with version IV this seems that can't be used due there is no space for the wrench.

 

I hope that you can help me. thanks

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Beware of plastic parts inside subject to break easily

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See this thread, with precaution 😉

 

 

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5 hours ago, a.noctilux said:

Beware of plastic parts inside subject to break easily

 

See this thread, with precaution 😉

 

 

Noctilux, I careful read what is written, but is seems that they specified only how to unscrew if you have a German version. I have a Canadian one. I read on internet to unscrew the front element and tight or re-cement the front part. Can you please explain how to unscrew that front part without brake anything? Do have I to try to unscrew with lens hood attached? 

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@Aquilasfx

sorry to let you know that I've never repair my multiple Summicron 35 IV.

I use them for a while, and experienced some flaws in the past.

Each time I let the trusted repair men do the 'good' job.

 

I think that the 'slanted' or loose front element (part) is something only on canadian made 'IV' with plastic (or synthetic) part,

replaced with metallic part when moved to Germany.

One of the 'bad habit' is to mount/unmount the lens holding the hood (I had done that before the repair man said not to do).

like here, film M so not 'seen' in the field

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/284086-leica-m-film-photos-feel-free-to-share-yours/?do=findComment&comment=4289485

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(hood was slanted, so weird vignetting on many frames)

 

This plastic ring may be the culprit

 

another good reading article, here

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, a.noctilux said:

@Aquilasfx

sorry to let you know that I've never repair my multiple Summicron 35 IV.

I use them for a while, and experienced some flaws in the past.

Each time I let the trusted repair men do the 'good' job.

 

I think that the 'slanted' or loose front element (part) is something only on canadian made 'IV' with plastic (or synthetic) part,

replaced with metallic part when moved to Germany.

One of the 'bad habit' is to mount/unmount the lens holding the hood (I had done that before the repair man said not to do).

like here, film M so not 'seen' in the field

https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/284086-leica-m-film-photos-feel-free-to-share-yours/?do=findComment&comment=4289485

(hood was slanted, so weird vignetting on many frames)

 

This plastic ring may be the culprit

 

another good reading article, here

 

 

 

Anyway I opened my lens unscrewing the screws on the lens mount and I disassembled in focus part from the lens part with aperture ring. Then I figure out that inside there is that plastic part (obviously mine is a Canadian IV), and I realised that that loose movement depends by the helicoids (the brass one to the aluminium one they tend to move a bit)… I think that I can’t do anything. Anyway when I reassembled all I noticed a little bit less movement, but then I found a things that I didn’t noticed before, the focus ring is going lower then 0,7 scale it move 5 millimeters more to the left. The infinity focus stop perfectly. 
 

before I didn’t noticed that, do you think that I reassembled bad the lens? (Anyway I didn’t remeber that was going lower then 0,7 scale (maybe I didn’t noticed before. I don’t know if it is normal or not). 
 

for the helicoids I cleaned and used bit of oil for razors for now. What kind of grease do have I to use?

 

thanks 

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@Aquilasfx bravo, you had done it.

👍

...

For reference, I discovered old thread..."IV"

Seen this thread also here

 

Lens focus nearer than expected, normal with 35mm Summicron IV.

Most of my lenses RF focus less than stated 0.7m,

tolerance in this close focus may come from the real focal length or something else, I don't know or don't want to know.

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On 10/21/2021 at 11:53 PM, a.noctilux said:

@Aquilasfx bravo, you had done it.

👍

...

For reference, I discovered old thread..."IV"

Seen this thread also here

 

Lens focus nearer than expected, normal with 35mm Summicron IV.

Most of my lenses RF focus less than stated 0.7m,

tolerance in this close focus may come from the real focal length or something else, I don't know or don't want to know.

Hello Arnold, what grease do you suggest to use?

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As I wrote, I never grease any lens.

I know that there are more than my knowledge to maintain lenses or bodies (M,R, LTM Leica and more).

I pay the good technical persons to do that better than myself.

Sorry not to be able to help.

 

Note:

I think that the grease to use is not regular type so the good technician is the good person to do with the right grease of his choice.

to read here in French 35mm compact

[...

Pour ce qui est de l'huile minérale, je ne suis pas du tout d'accord
J'utilise les graisses des marques pour lequel j'ai officié.
Chez Nikon je n'utilise que leur graisse pour les optiques (introuvable sur le marché)
Même problème chez Leica beaucoup de graisse différentes pour chaque optique (introuvable)
Je dois avoir une vingtaine de graisses différentes
Heureusement que que j'ai raccroché.
Je ne sais pas ce que vaut les graisses sur internet sur l'Asie ?

Gérard
]

Gérard (meger)

worked for repair/CLA my Leica gears for decades...

 

Good luck

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