Slender Posted October 10, 2021 Share #1 Posted October 10, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) You may have heard it first here: according to indiscretions from some Leica salespeople in Paris, the Monochrom version of our beloved SL platform should be around the corner. It makes sense since the sensor already exists (Q2M) and it would be quite a thing of delight to finaly see what those SL lenses can do on what should be the most stringent Leica sensor yet... funny to imagine Multishot in a bayer-free sensor... and 10 (12?) bit log would make for some out of this world cinematography for Black and White lovers. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Leicaiste Posted October 10, 2021 Share #2 Posted October 10, 2021 Could somebody point me to a website, a book or an exhibition where I could see some really nice b&w made with any Leica Monochrom ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlackBarn Posted October 10, 2021 Share #3 Posted October 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, Leicaiste said: Could somebody point me to a website Yes….the one you posted this question on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slender Posted October 10, 2021 Author Share #4 Posted October 10, 2021 59 minutes ago, Leicaiste said: Could somebody point me to a website, a book or an exhibition where I could see some really nice b&w made with any Leica Monochrom ? surely not to everyone's taste, but it was an impressive body of work all made with the Henry M9 https://www.google.com/search?q=arrivals+and+departures+sobol&client=firefox-b-d&sxsrf=AOaemvJdVF93YHlZWlMgUXhLF-8In-X74A:1633885483307&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwis2NfeqcDzAhWpQkEAHZiZCssQ_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1440&bih=732&dpr=2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicaiste Posted October 10, 2021 Share #5 Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) This kind of results are exactly why I asked that question. I don’t see them as really nice b&w pictures. Edited October 10, 2021 by Leicaiste 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
beewee Posted October 10, 2021 Share #6 Posted October 10, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Slender said: funny to imagine Multishot in a bayer-free sensor The lack of a Bayer filter can open up even more possibilities for multishot since the camera does not need to shift by one pixel increments between shots. It can potentially do 1/2, 1/3 or 1/4 pixel shifts if the IBIS mechanism is precise enough and allow for even higher then the current 4x resolution in multishot mode. Edited October 10, 2021 by beewee 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slender Posted October 10, 2021 Author Share #7 Posted October 10, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Waste not, want not, what can I say? I saw them in print at photo London again recently, they were great for the kind of imagery. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Michael Posted October 10, 2021 Share #8 Posted October 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Leicaiste said: Could somebody point me to a website, a book or an exhibition where I could see some really nice b&w made with any Leica Monochrom ? HAve you looked at the Q2M (in the Q/Q2 section) or the M10M (in the M section) specific image threads? There is a wide variety of images in those threads. In my option there are some pretty remarkable examples of what these bodies are capable of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
justru49 Posted October 10, 2021 Share #9 Posted October 10, 2021 vor 44 Minuten schrieb _Michael: HAve you looked at the Q2M (in the Q/Q2 section) or the M10M (in the M section) specific image threads? There is a wide variety of images in those threads. In my option there are some pretty remarkable examples of what these bodies are capable of. No need to explain. He don't like the Monos, even if HBC himself had shot with one... 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted October 10, 2021 Share #10 Posted October 10, 2021 I don’t find what you gain (clean resolution) to be worth what you lose (ability to change contrast by colour in post, no need to use coloured filters and have to remember to exposure adjust for them). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
justru49 Posted October 11, 2021 Share #11 Posted October 11, 2021 vor 10 Stunden schrieb justru49: No need to explain. He don't like the Monos, even if HBC himself had shot with one... … better: HCB🤭 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted October 11, 2021 Share #12 Posted October 11, 2021 14 hours ago, Slender said: Henry M9 ?? what's a Henry M9? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFriendly Posted October 11, 2021 Share #13 Posted October 11, 2021 Is it going to be a SL2-SM or SL2-M ? And how long is "on the horizon" ? Are we talking 2021? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slender Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share #14 Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, MrFriendly said: Is it going to be a SL2-SM or SL2-M ? And how long is "on the horizon" ? Are we talking 2021? "soon" according to my source... remember the two SL2 were announced in november 19/20 so.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slender Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share #15 Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, frame-it said: ?? what's a Henry M9? Twas the project codename for the first Monochrom Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted October 11, 2021 Share #16 Posted October 11, 2021 52 minutes ago, Slender said: Twas the project codename for the first Monochrom cool Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted October 11, 2021 Share #17 Posted October 11, 2021 4 hours ago, frame-it said: cool Well, Henri… https://www.slack.co.uk/slack/Monochrom.html Jeff 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slender Posted October 11, 2021 Author Share #18 Posted October 11, 2021 Yes, especially I am french I should know better lol.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoreserve Posted October 11, 2021 Share #19 Posted October 11, 2021 Am 10.10.2021 um 17:22 schrieb Slender: You may have heard it first here: according to indiscretions from some Leica salespeople in Paris, the Monochrom version of our beloved SL platform should be around the corner. It makes sense since the sensor already exists (Q2M) and it would be quite a thing of delight to finaly see what those SL lenses can do on what should be the most stringent Leica sensor yet... funny to imagine Multishot in a bayer-free sensor... and 10 (12?) bit log would make for some out of this world cinematography for Black and White lovers. A (my!) dream would come true (currently using SL2/SL601 & SL Apo's 28/35/50/90). Just hoping you are right... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Michael Posted October 11, 2021 Share #20 Posted October 11, 2021 18 hours ago, jrp said: I don’t find what you gain (clean resolution) to be worth what you lose (ability to change contrast by colour in post, no need to use coloured filters and have to remember to exposure adjust for them). I guess that's the beauty of these choices. The Monochrom line is a speciality within the Leica product line. Some love the option, others not so much. You mentioned the clean resolution of the sensor, but there is also a tonal transition quality that is very difficult to match with a color conversion. That last point has often been missed by me but more and more I've come to appreciate it. I have also been quite skeptical of the advantages historically, but have changed my perspective. Many on this forum love to talk about the legacy of Leica and the experience of same. I think the Monochrom solutions fit that well for those who are still a bit crazy from the fumes of the darkroom and shot more bricks of Tri-X that we might ever remember. I'm finding the results of the Q2M quite satisfying, and a simple yellow or yellow-green filter can produce a fantastic baseline to apply minor adjustments. As one who historically spends too much time "developing" digital images, I like it less and less all the time. Less is more for me. 5 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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