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54 minutes ago, Steven said:

Yes, I think they do a correction. At least in daylight when used with no filter to compensate. The advantage of 500T is that it has a remjet layer that avoid the light halos of cinestill. The advantage of cinestill is that imo it’s the one that pushed the best. I don’t like pushing Portra. It gets too contrasted. But cinestill gives enjoyable results when pushed one stop. 
 

as for 500T, it might look too close to reality for me. I think that Portra 800 gives more moody scenes. And the extra iso is a plus too. 

so Portra might become my go to film stock. It’s also by far my favorite in daylight, in any scenario. I usually prefer 160 over 400, but I’m forcing myself to shoot more and more 400 for extra versatility. 160 can be very limiting, even in daylight when stepping indoor occasionally. 

Thanks for the 500T and Cinestill info 

I agree about P400 - I find it much easier to get the results I want from 160, but always come back to 400 for the same reason as you.  I find it a bit vibrant but will keep trying.

The 800 has gorgeous tones, love the shot of the bike !

 

 

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8 hours ago, Steven said:

 The advantage of 500T is that it has a remjet layer that avoid the light halos of cinestill.

I may be misreading you, but unless there is another 500T film in the world the Cinestill 500T  does have the Remjet layer removed. The Remjet layer of movie films was to stop abrasion as the film passed quickly through the film gate, but it requires a special process to remove it before the film can be processed normally in C41 chemicals, hence the niche market Cinestill inhabit.

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1 hour ago, 250swb said:

I may be misreading you, but unless there is another 500T film in the world the Cinestill 500T  does have the Remjet layer removed. The Remjet layer of movie films was to stop abrasion as the film passed quickly through the film gate, but it requires a special process to remove it before the film can be processed normally in C41 chemicals, hence the niche market Cinestill inhabit.

Cinestill 800 has the rem jet layer removed. 

The Vision 3 500T stock I'm using, and posting on this thread, is a true cinefilm, bought and processed in Europe. It does have a rem jet layer. The film itself is matte looking, not shiny like Portra or Cinestill. 

In the lab where I have it processed, they remove the rem jet layer, and then they develop it in ECN 2. 

You can see on the images I posted that they don't produces this strong red halos around highlights that cinestill is none for, and that I dislike more and more the more I see it. 

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Which film stock do you shoot at night ? .....Fuji Acros, given its reciprocity response.

For this scene that metered at 2 minutes, I didn't need to make any further adjustment ...2 mins was still 2 mins.

There is weird stuff going on with this compressed jpeg (the original drum scan off 5x4 is rather better!), but you get the idea of the benefit I found of using Acros at night 

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For night shots, I prefer it when it's not properly dark .....instead I like to shoot at dusk, just after the lights come on. Later than that, and I find it's so dark that everything becomes too contrasty. Another example here better shows what i mean. Fuji Acros (again on 5x4) also found this easy, exposure here was closer to 15 seconds from what i recall ....

 

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13 hours ago, 250swb said:

I may be misreading you, but unless there is another 500T film in the world the Cinestill 500T  does have the Remjet layer removed. The Remjet layer of movie films was to stop abrasion as the film passed quickly through the film gate, but it requires a special process to remove it before the film can be processed normally in C41 chemicals, hence the niche market Cinestill inhabit.

Also, here's the link, if you're interested to try the stock. I like their 200T a lot... https://silbersalz35.com

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3 minutes ago, Steven said:

Also, here's the link, if you're interested to try the stock. I like their 200T a lot... https://silbersalz35.com

Thanks, it looks like they've made an interesting alternative business model from Cinestill, but I like to process my own colour film. And I still have the nagging doubt from what I've seen (present company excepted) that using unadulterated cine film is more about showmanship than better results. 

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Nick Carver does a lot of medium/large format film shooting at night, and is known for his well done YouTube presentations.  Here he makes some interesting comments about trying Cinestill 800T (after about the 9 min mark or so)…


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2 hours ago, Jeff S said:

Nick Carver does a lot of medium/large format film shooting at night, and is known for his well done YouTube presentations.  Here he makes some interesting comments about trying Cinestill 800T (after about the 9 min mark or so)…


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Thanks for the link 

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On 9/15/2021 at 6:59 AM, Steven said:

I’m seriously considering to ditch digital for 99% of my photography and going back almost exclusively to film....

... im looking for higher speed to match my digital use. 

 

To have decent photo at night at so called film stock, you need flash. Or you need insane large apertures, which are useless to bring the content in focus. Or you need to push @ well above 800.

But.

Using flash and insane large apertures is still common for digital. And high ISO is still nothing special on digital, crooked colors and else. 

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