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Hey, 

would you buy a Leica M 9 with an updated processor. 

So we could keep the nice sensor and have a more responsive camera. 

I would love to have the choice of using a CCD but with a faster response time

and maybe live view could be achieved. 

I shoot the camera the way it is. And I can live with it's limitations. 

But if I could choose, I would love to have this option. 

Same with the M8. 

If I could get one with updated processor, I would buy it. 

What about you? 

 

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Yes I would. But that would be too good to be true so of course it’s never going to happen. I *think* I’ve seen some commentary along the lines that the M10R renders in a more film like way akin to the M8/M9, whether that’s actually true or not, who knows.

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48 minutes ago, Pelu2010 said:

Hey, 

would you buy a Leica M 9 with an updated processor. 

So we could keep the nice sensor and have a more responsive camera. 

I would love to have the choice of using a CCD but with a faster response time

and maybe live view could be achieved. 

I shoot the camera the way it is. And I can live with it's limitations. 

But if I could choose, I would love to have this option. 

Same with the M8. 

If I could get one with updated processor, I would buy it. 

What about you? 

 

 i thought you would say "why not have a CCD sensor on the M10-R ?"  😇

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What about a COBALT conversion for the M10-R? See fredmiranda forum.

It is not the CCD mechanism, that makes the difference, but the color handling.

There is a dead line for today.

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The way M9 capture colors are very unique that it varies in different lighting, often not very predictable but in a pleasant way. M10-R doesn't quite have the character me think. Cobalt profiles are the closest due to the way the profiles are created but as mentioned above, the way M9 capture colors and tones is very unique - I felt modern sensors capture colors and tones in a much more consistent manner, even just comparing M9 to M240 I'm noticing the M240 is much more predictable.

I feel the sluggishness of the M9 has less to do with the processors - it'll be a brighter/clearer viewfinder and a quieter/faster shutter that I'll upgrade if it's even possible.

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2 hours ago, jankap said:

What about a COBALT conversion for the M10-R? See fredmiranda forum.

It is not the CCD mechanism, that makes the difference, but the color handling.

There is a dead line for today.

Would like to see the pictures that you take with a cmos Sensor and turn them into ccd Look! Can you show us an example? 
I switch tools for looks. 
like lenses, Film grain, sensors, camera brands, etc. 

I am curious how you achieve the look. 

Any proof? 
 

 

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Presets have one disadvantage: 

you can apply them in thousand or millions. 
 

and you can copy any look. 
 

But changing hardware means something complete different. 
cine lenses look different then m lenses or dslr lenses. 
lenses from the 50ties look different then new ones. 
 

see this one: canon with m mount :

https://www.slrlounge.com/how-a-canon-5d-mark-ii-is-transformed-into-a-pseduo-leica/

different: 

The looks look good , but I am tiered of them. 
 

 

 

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16 hours ago, Pelu2010 said:

Would like to see the pictures that you take with a cmos Sensor and turn them into ccd Look! Can you show us an example? 
I switch tools for looks. 
like lenses, Film grain, sensors, camera brands, etc. 

I am curious how you achieve the look. 

Any proof? 
 

 

Sorry, I have read from this only. Still thinking to buy a couple, but as I work with very old LR and PS, I have to pull the trigger for a new LR version.

Achieving the look seems to be for me, moving entries in the color lookup table somewhat. Of course the color filters in front of the sensor can already give a more Kodak look in case of the M9 in comparison to later M´s.

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Here is a very nice article about the M9 

and why it’s unique. 
 

https://www.overgaard.dk/leica-M9-digital-rangefinder-camera.html

 

I bought a M3 from 1966 last winter. 
And in the future there will be people that will buy this camera. 
The question belongs to those people out there. 
would you buy an altered more capable camera. 
we cannot alter the film for this camera like we can with the m3. 
But to me it would be interesting if the processor of the camera could be improved. 
And I asked the question here, because I thought that this is the right Place to ask the question. 
 

I don’t ask the people that are hunting for the next thing. 
 

I was curious if other photographer asked themself the same question. 
 

In 2059 the Camera will have its 50 year  anniversary. And I am sure that there would be collectors and photographers that would love to own a piece and maybe take pictures with it. And that don’t care about the mpx. 
 

what do you think, beside a dead horse that is resting on it’s side. 
 

hey take care 

Stay happy 

and take a Good picture every day! 
 

peter Lund 

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On 8/15/2021 at 12:54 PM, Pelu2010 said:

but with a faster response time

 

On 8/15/2021 at 4:10 PM, Casey Jefferson said:

I feel the sluggishness of the M9

So now we have a new “issue” coming out of god knows where. What on earth are you talking about? Slow response? Sluggishness? Response to what? I’ve read many times on the LUF about subsequent digital M model owners wishing theirs had the same instant start up time as the 9. The only slowness is writing the files so no, you can’t shoot the 9 like a machine gun. That should be considered a good thing.

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Here is no such upgrade possibilities and M9 processor is totally adequate once you learn how to not act like operator of machine gun with motion detector.

I have zero issues with m8/m9 for fast moving objects or exposure metering of changing light.

But I’m film M, meterless school. It means I process what I’m about to photograph.

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1 hour ago, Casey Jefferson said:

There, you just pointed out another.

Yes, well known and only an issue for users who need to take 15 same photos in the hope of getting one right. I could mention the deafening sound of the shutter too if you like.

So what sluggishness are you talking about?

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13 hours ago, ianman said:

Yes, well known and only an issue for users who need to take 15 same photos in the hope of getting one right. I could mention the deafening sound of the shutter too if you like.

So what sluggishness are you talking about?

I had M240 and shooting side by side, M240 is objectively more responsive. No question about it. I can hit focus much faster with M240 too due to the brighter and clearer viewfinder. I take that it's a non-issue for you. I don't have issue with the M240 startup time, too.

your M9 still function as you expected it whatever other people said.

I love my M9, by the way. 😉

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Hey there, 

 

to be very clear. 
I used the camera. 
I like the Camera as it is. 
 

but : as time goes on , things that where designed in a way and we didn’t have the ability to produce them differently can be changed. 
like some old cars. You can mod them. 
some mods are noticeable , some you don’t See and you need to be very good at noticing. 
 

that said: 

i want to explore if there at people that would like to have some things changed on the camera, that could be changed in future. 
 

there will always be people that won’t change a thing, but this post is not for them. 
 

they can enjoy the thread but I am looking for those of you, that wish something impossible. 
 

and I usually never shoot more than one picture at the time. When I am walking and contemplating. 
 

When I am doing reportage , I sometimes need more pictures for one scene. Or when I shoot a portrait. 
I lose picture in this situation. (And I can live with this loss) . 
 

But if I could choose, I would love to have this look (M9) , out of camera, with less waiting. 
 

yep you can achieve the look with a preset (maybe) , but I want the experience in the moment. 
 

make a good camera better. That is the aim. 
 

 

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